Looks like a war is looming in Israel

[Bumblebee]

Russia is trying to provoke an attack, and give them a reason to engage NATO and start the next round of battles.

If the US wasn't in Ukraine protecting Biden and His son's business dealings, there would be no war there.....................Putin made it very clear he would NOT invade Ukraine as long a The US and NATO were NOT there. Ukraine is like No mans land between Russia and NATO.

But Biden and Kamala being the Deep State they are, cannot respect the mutual agreement Putin and Trump had regarding Ukraine.
Once again the the deep state being the bully it is, needs to poke it's nose where it doesn't belong in order to protect the millions of dollars the Biden family has invested there. (This has already been proven, and we all know who "the big man" is.

Like it or not, Trump understood we ALL have to live on this planet and play in it's sandbox. He understood we are all NOT going to get along, but we need to respect each others boundaries if we want to prevent wars and soldiers being killed while the elite push their pens around. In order to have peace in this world you must be willing to talk and discuss the issues at hand with those we don't like. Let Russia and China play in their sandbox, and the US can play in it's own. If we all respect each others boundaries, there is no need for war and conflict.

Trump made it very clear to Putin if he invades Ukraine, that he would Bomb Moscow in no uncertain terms......................and he had a similar message to Xi Jinping regarding Taiwan. You watch, if the deep state keeps it up China will invade Taiwan and send the modern world into a tailspin as they manufacture 90% of the computer chips used around the world.

Perhaps the US should concentrate of fixing it's own issues at home, before it starts to try and re-arrange the world around them.

What's going on in Israel is but a distraction to the real issues about to happen. I am NOT worried about Russia and China individually.
What I am worried about is if Russia and China get together against the USA........................The US will not stand a chance, they have the manpower and the technology to bury the US and alienate it.

Cameron

Russia invading Ukraine was a matter of time.....they have been at odds ever since the fall of the Soviet Union.....

Russia has been fighting a proxy war in the eastern Ukraine regions since the mid 2000's...even before they invaded Crimea.....

It was bound to happen eventually.

The big elephant in the room is where it will go from here...Russia has already allied itself with Iran, North Korea and China and while the west gets weaker, they will strive to get stronger.....

 

[Duro5341]

It could only escalate..........the wild card will be who else jumps in.

After 4 years of peace in the middle east with Trump, bringing soldiers home, we were back at war in the middle east within 6 months of Biden Election.

Haven't citizens figured it out yet?????, Democrats are the largest international weapons dealer in the world and only make money when wars are blowing stuff up. Then they can sell the weapons through one door, and then send "much needed aid to help the war torn" through the other. This way they look like the hero's while raking in the cash they send to help rebuild (which they do the rebuilding are re-arming).

Obama, Bill Clinton, Hilary Clinton, Biden (Bush was forced in with 9/11) all couldn't wait to go to war.........................and they all saw their personal wealth spike because of it.

It's time citizens follow the money trail, rather than the rhetoric. We might learn something new about the deep state and WHO finances it.

Cameron

 

[Zerks]

That question? The issues we’ve gone around and around about for endless months? Events? Like the debate in which Harris dismantled Trump? Status? Economy is strong, morale on the way up. Immigration needs addressed. How many times do we need to disagree before you stop asking me the same schit and then claim we didn’t discuss it? 20? 30?

That’s really rich Zerks. You’re the king of leaving a thread after you’ve been proven to have no basis. You usually top it off with a drunken ramble. Sound familiar?

It's not worth the time it takes to repost the questions you won't answer. I am fine with that. In fact, I expect that kind of dialog these days. So, call me a drunk, or whatever names you think fits... I really don't care. I simply want to the truth to come out.

 

[Red05]

It's not worth the time it takes to repost the questions you won't answer. I am fine with that. In fact, I expect that kind of dialog these days. So, call me a drunk, or whatever names you think fits... I really don't care. I simply want to the truth to come out.

What question can you possibly have that we haven't discussed over and over? You're running with what Jelly said but really don't have any idea, do you?

 

[Duro5341]

Russia invading Ukraine was a matter of time.....they have been at odds ever since the fall of the Soviet Union.....

Trump was able to hold the bear at bay...........................Like it or not, he is a shroud negotiator and not afraid to put someone in their place.
He realized that Putin was looking to Ukraine, and knew he could stop it by threatening to bring the very war Putin wanted right to his door step.

In the end, No leader wants to loose soldiers, lives, and infrastructure.................They are expensive to replace, and doesn't look good in the public eye.

Trump walked the fine line, and knew where he could push and hold firm and he did.....................Trump knows the power and respect the US military should have around the world, and he will swing the big hammer if he needs to, to keep the tyrants in line and hold the line.

Biden and Kamala are weak, feeble minded and bend the knee at the drop of a hat..................The world knows this, and use it to their advantage.

Was Trump a bully?, Sure he was........................a bully among other bullies around the world and not afraid to stand up and hold firm for the US and it's people when needed. What is wrong with fighting fire with fire in this world?. Hugs and Kisses don't fix the world, guns and the threat of action keep the peace in this world, it is NOT free nor is it easy.

Cameron

 

[Zerks]

After 4 years of peace in the middle east with Trump, bringing soldiers home, we were back at war in the middle east within 6 months of Biden Election.

Haven't citizens figured it out yet?????, Democrats are the largest international weapons dealer in the world and only make money when wars are blowing stuff up. Then they can sell the weapons through one door, and then send "much needed aid to help the war torn" through the other. This way they look like the hero's while raking in the cash they send to help rebuild (which they do the rebuilding are re-arming).

Obama, Bill Clinton, Hilary Clinton, Biden (Bush was forced in with 9/11) all couldn't wait to go to war.........................and they all saw their personal wealth spike because of it.

It's time citizens follow the money trail, rather than the rhetoric. We might learn something new about the deep state and WHO finances it.

Cameron

Thanks for expanding on the reality that wars are primarily about as I briefly covered in post #1437. As American Marine General Smedly Butler said decades ago... War is a racket... Sure, it achieves objectives like gaining natural strategic resources like precious minerals used to bolster the production of useful commodities for construction and industry. This also includes military hardware which is key to superiority on the battlefields. However, the human cost far exceeds the benefit it provides.

My geologist friend that is employed by people looking for gold in the western states says the big money isn't really in gold mining. Gold simply pays for the operation. The big money is in the precious elements that can only be separated with centrifuges that separate the smallest of several classes of highly rare elements that the Feds will buy 100% of whatever is mined and isolated. It is very profitable when it can be found and finding it isn't easy. I can't even spell or pronounce the names of those elements as I have forgotten the specifics he told me.

 

[Bumblebee]

Trump was able to hold the bear at bay...........................Like it or not, he is a shroud negotiator and not afraid to put someone in their place.
He realized that Putin was looking to Ukraine, and knew he could stop it by threatening to bring the very war Putin wanted right to his door step.

In the end, No leader wants to loose soldiers, lives, and infrastructure.................They are expensive to replace, and doesn't look good in the public eye.

Trump walked the fine line, and knew where he could push and hold firm and he did.....................Trump knows the power and respect the US military should have around the world, and he will swing the big hammer if he needs to, to keep the tyrants in line and hold the line.

Biden and Kamala are weak, feeble minded and bend the knee at the drop of a hat..................The world knows this, and use it to their advantage.

Was Trump a bully?, Sure he was........................a bully among other bullies around the world and not afraid to stand up and hold firm for the US and it's people when needed. What is wrong with fighting fire with fire in this world?. Hugs and Kisses don't fix the world, guns and the threat of action keep the peace in this world, it is NOT free nor is it easy.

Cameron

Russia was fighting a proxy war even during Trumps reign.....

Trump was a little too cozy with the world dictators...

However I agree that a strong show of force and political strength goes a long way to prevent wars...

If a country appears weak, other strong countries will eat them up.....

 

[Bumblebee]

Thanks for expanding on the reality that wars are primarily about as I briefly covered in post #1437. As American Marine General Smedly Butler said decades ago... War is a racket... Sure, it achieves objectives like gaining natural strategic resources like precious minerals used to bolster the production of useful commodities for construction and industry. This also includes military hardware which is key to superiority on the battlefields. However, the human cost far exceeds the benefit it provides.

My geologist friend that is employed by people looking for gold in the western states says the big money isn't really in gold mining. Gold simply pays for the operation. The big money is in the precious elements that can only be separated with centrifuges that separate the smallest of several classes of highly rare elements that the Feds will buy 100% of whatever is mined and isolated. It is very profitable when it can be found and finding it isn't easy. I can't even spell or pronounce the names of those elements as I have forgotten the specifics he told me.

Intervention into a war may very well be a money making racket especially in the case of dumping money via proxy such as what is occurring in Ukraine right now....however there are many wars which are fought over ideology or religion.....and have nothing to do with global economics....

Fighting wars is a very expensive venture in all facets, human lives, infrastructure are but two of these....

Not only is there money being made in wars but there is also a huge advancement in arms and strategic operations as a result...currently western nations are loading Ukraine with all kinds of advanced western equipment and are reaping the rewards of battle testing this equipment without spilling one drop of blood....

 

[Zerks]

What question can you possibly have that we haven't discussed over and over? You're running with what Jelly said but really don't have any idea, do you?

Lets move forward to the next no reply subject. Its an old subject, but, give it a shot.

Why should people that illegally enter this country where their first act with arriving here is to break the law and get benefits?

Why should they receive tax payer benefits including health care, plane tickets and bus tickets and be allowed to settle into whatever part of the country they choose?

Now, I realize the rules keep changing to benefit those that enter illegally... there is no excuse for legislative lawlessness in Washington DC. This isn't how we normally deal with illegal immigration.

Keep in mind Venezuela's crime rate is down 71%... they opened their jails and prisons and sent all the criminals out as long as they make their way to the USA. We now have the numbers documented by the Feds. Over 11,000 convicted murders, over 13,000 convicted of personal crimes like rape and incest... and over 425,000 criminals in general that have entered our country since Biden and Harris came to be installed in the White House. Tell me why US citizen tax payers should allow this to happen and be taxed to pay for it?

 

[Bumblebee]

After 4 years of peace in the middle east with Trump, bringing soldiers home, we were back at war in the middle east within 6 months of Biden Election.

Haven't citizens figured it out yet?????, Democrats are the largest international weapons dealer in the world and only make money when wars are blowing stuff up. Then they can sell the weapons through one door, and then send "much needed aid to help the war torn" through the other. This way they look like the hero's while raking in the cash they send to help rebuild (which they do the rebuilding are re-arming).

Obama, Bill Clinton, Hilary Clinton, Biden (Bush was forced in with 9/11) all couldn't wait to go to war.........................and they all saw their personal wealth spike because of it.

It's time citizens follow the money trail, rather than the rhetoric. We might learn something new about the deep state and WHO finances it.

Cameron

There has never really been peace in the middle east...

The US has never left the middle east and have bases all over it.....even during Trump's administration.....

There has been no large scale battles being waged but here have been countless skirmishes occurring all the time.....and it depends on where you are in the middle east and what kind of media coverage is being given on any specific day....

Now you must remember one thing....unless you are a duel citizen and can vote in the next US election......people such as you and I are spectators....

I believe we have our own fish to fry here in Canada with Trudeau and his merry band of imbeciles....

 

[Duro5341]

Russia was fighting a proxy war even during Trumps reign.....

Trump was a little too cozy with the world dictators...

Trump understands we all need to live on this planet and in this sandbox........................Being an adult and a leader means you have to sit down with some of the most vial and sadistic people on this planet. I'm not saying you have to get along with them or agree with them, but you do need to show mutual respect and tolerance among each other to discuss the issues facing them all in this world.

We all have to play in this sad box called earth, and either we all stay in our own area's and get along or we fight, kill citizens, burn up weapons, and destroy infrastructure which all needs to be replaced at great financial cost and great human cost.

As an adult, you don't have to like someone to sit down and talk to them..................You need to respect them enough to discuss the adult problems and find common ground to at least keep the peace in the world and stop the killing. You don't have to like them, approve of them, or be friends with them. Just hash out common ground and keep the peace - NOTHING MORE.

And that's exactly what Trump did...............He is NOT their friend, he wants to stop the endless killing PERIOD.

Cameron

 

[Duro5341]

There has never really been peace in the middle east...

The US has never left the middle east and have bases all over it.....even during Trump's administration.....

There has been no large scale battles being waged but here have been countless skirmishes occurring all the time.....and it depends on where you are in the middle east and what kind of media coverage is being given on any specific day....

Now you must remember one thing....unless you are a duel citizen and can vote in the next US election......people such as you and I are spectators....

I believe we have our own fish to fry here in Canada with Trudeau and his merry band of imbeciles....

And in my mind, there never will be............................Therefor we must isolate it, surround it, and keep the battles there.
No one comes in, No one comes out.................Stop it from spreading to the rest of the world

We must put the Islamic Genie back in it's bottle, and keep it in the middle east where it belongs.

There was far less death under Trump than there was under Obama or Biden, and that's a win no matter what side you are on.

Yes we have our own fish to fry here in Canada, but sadly what happens in the US has a direct impact on what happens in Canada.
Now if we could just get rid of Tyrant Trudeau, and his NDP and Bloc supporters Canada might actually rise from the ashes and soar.
If either Liberal or NDP are elected, we are doomed and I will gladly accelerate Canada's decline into bankruptcy as I have NOTHING to loose an everything to gain from it. No point in bailing out the boat, when citizens are drilling more holes in the hull...............stop bailing and get your life jacket on instead.

Cameron

 

[Zerks]

Intervention into a war may very well be a money making racket especially in the case of dumping money via proxy such as what is occurring in Ukraine right now....however there are many wars which are fought over ideology or religion.....and have nothing to do with global economics....

Fighting wars is a very expensive venture in all facets, human lives, infrastructure are but two of these....

Not only is there money being made in wars but there is also a huge advancement in arms and strategic operations as a result...currently western nations are loading Ukraine with all kinds of advanced western equipment and are reaping the rewards of battle testing this equipment without spilling one drop of blood....

Well, I guess wars can be justified if only the bad guys are killed and the good guys can stay safe. The surgical precision of the newest technology means that more men and women will get to go home and raise their children because they didn't die in a conflict that was fought the old fashioned way with boots on the ground warfare.

As far as expensive activities go... nothing could be faster... bombs, tanks, planes, battleships and aircraft carriers along with all the high tech stuff gets expended at a rapid rate... and doesn't really produce a direct profit. Over time the benefits can be realized in ways we can see after the dust settles and new agreements are made between countries.

It has been said if the all the military spending of the world was spent on peaceful projects that sustain humanity and make it productive we would enjoy an entirely different existence instead of what we have now.

For some reason.... The big ego's of this world can't have that and won't settle for that reality to exist.

 

[Bumblebee]

And in my mind, there never will be............................Therefor we must isolate it, surround it, and keep the battles there.
No one comes in, No one comes out.................Stop it from spreading to the rest of the world

We must put the Islamic Genie back in it's bottle, and keep it in the middle east where it belongs.

There was far less death under Trump than there was under Obama or Biden, and that's a win no matter what side you are on.

Yes we have our own fish to fry here in Canada, but sadly what happens in the US has a direct impact on what happens in Canada.
Now if we could just get rid of Tyrant Trudeau, and his NDP and Bloc supporters Canada might actually rise from the ashes and soar.
If either Liberal or NDP are elected, we are doomed and I will gladly accelerate Canada's decline into bankruptcy as I have NOTHING to loose an everything to gain from it. No point in bailing out the boat, when citizens are drilling more holes in the hull...............stop bailing and get your life jacket on instead.

Cameron

Trump's biggest enemy was himself.......he just doesn't know when to quit talking and just do what he said he will do....

For some reason he just has to broadcast every thought in his head.....mostly through social media.

Some of his polices were valid but I believe voters are looking at the whole package and voted him out last time and will again this time...

I'm aligned neutral right politically so I like to see conservative leadership...we'll see how it goes....

 

[Duro5341]

Trump's biggest enemy was himself.......he just doesn't know when to quit talking and just do what he said he will do....

For some reason he just has to broadcast every thought in his head.....mostly through social media.

Some of his polices were valid but I believe voters are looking at the whole package and voted him out last time and will again this time...

I'm aligned neutral right politically so I like to see conservative leadership...we'll see how it goes....

I 100% agree with you here...............Take that damn Twitter away from him.

I personally don't like the man, but I DON'T disagree with his policies. They worked, and made common sense.

Sadly that is lacking in Canada and the US these days for sure.

Cameron

 

[Bumblebee]

Well, I guess wars can be justified if only the bad guys are killed and the good guys can stay safe. The surgical precision of the newest technology means that more men and women will get to go home and raise their children because they didn't die in a conflict that was fought the old fashioned way with boots on the ground warfare.

As far as expensive activities go... nothing could be faster... bombs, tanks, planes, battleships and aircraft carriers along with all the high tech stuff gets expended at a rapid rate... and doesn't really produce a direct profit. Over time the benefits can be realized in ways we can see after the dust settles and new agreements are made between countries.

It has been said if the all the military spending of the world was spent on peaceful projects that sustain humanity and make it productive we would enjoy an entirely different existence instead of what we have now.

For some reason.... The big ego's of this world can't have that and won't settle for that reality to exist.

Sadly mankind is a warring species and always has been....

Nothing will change that other than our extinction (probably at our own hands).

There is no glory in war and no satisfaction in fighting them......as a soldier we fought for each other....the glory of the flag is long forgotten once the bullets, mortars and artillery rounds start flying....

The enemy we face now has been honed by generational ideology and that is next to impossible to defeat.

 

[Red05]

Why should they receive tax payer benefits including health care, plane tickets and bus tickets and be allowed to settle into whatever part of the country they choose?

I don’t recall seeing illegals get plane tickets. Relocated by force maybe. I don’t think people entering illegally should get benefits. I believe they should be able to work and start the process of getting a green card.

Over 11,000 convicted murders, over 13,000 convicted of personal crimes like rape and incest... and over 425,000 criminals in general that have entered our country since Biden and Harris came to be installed in the White House.

False. I recently read that article and was appalled even though the report specifies most of those entered way before the Biden administration. The numbers go back 4 decades.
Link
If you remember the other question I apparently didn’t answer, ask away.

 

[Bumblebee]

Biden has ordered the US military to shoot down any Iranian missiles that get into Israeli airspace....

The line will soon be drawn in the sand....literally and figuratively......

 

[Duro5341]

Biden has ordered the US military to shoot down any Iranian missiles that get into Israeli airspace....

The line will soon be drawn in the sand....literally and figuratively......

I wonder what Trudeau's comments will be on this as he tries to cater to Islamic followers while remembering Isreal is Canada's Allie.

Let's see how much more damage Trudeau can do to Canada's international relationships to long standing allies.

Cameron

 

[Bumblebee]

I wonder what Trudeau's comments will be on this as he tries to cater to Islamic followers while remembering Isreal is Canada's Allie.

Let's see how much more damage Trudeau can do to Canada's international relationships to long standing allies.

Cameron

I read he condemned the missile attack against Israel but asked Israel not to retaliate....