WAG said:
I'm confused. Why is it that the initial reaction is to be pissed because you
can no longer break the law without costing yourself an arm and a leg? The laws
haven't changed, just the penalties.
Why not just comply with the law and avoid the penalties?
ok wag , apparently you dont live in florida. Lets be fair about this. If speeding over
50mph is worth 1 grand on a bike shouldn't it be the same cost for someone in a car?
I sure as hell think it should. Why should a motorcyclist be treated differently then a car
for a speeding infraction?
look at the difference in the fine schedules....
For moving violations involving unlawful speed, the Florida speeding ticket fines are as follows:
For speed exceeding the limit by:
Fine:
1-5 m.p.h. Warning
6-9 m.p.h. $ 25
10-14 m.p.h. $100
15-19 m.p.h. $125
20-29 m.p.h. $150
30 m.p.h. and above $250
Court costs imposed under this subsection may not exceed $30.
source of information...
Florida Speeding Ticket
Thats 4 times the difference. No stipulation for repeat offenders unless you dont pay the fines.
That is where I find the issue with this law. 50 over is 50 over , wether it's a car or a bike, the fines
should be equal.
So my questions to you wag are why should there be a double standard for the same infraction?
Why should it cost 4 times more for a vehicle weighing 1/4 or less then the weight of a car?
How much more damage can be caused by a midsized or full sized suv going the same speed?
I am quite sure that if a lincoln navigator were to plow into a line of parked bikes at 50
it would cause more damage then a motorcycle hitting the same.
By this standard the law may be a little lopsided.
speedadict said:
I wish they would make it manditory to have insurance on their bikes down there.
That would cut a lot of the BS out I belive. If there premiums started going up
with every wreck and ticket maybee they would think twice about doing that nonsense
A little fyi here speed adict. Insurance is not mandatory on a motorcycle in florida.
Nor are helmets. There are rules for this though. If you want to ride without a lid,
you are required to have insurance. If your passanger rides without a lid you have
to have that clause added to the policy as well. If you do not carry insurance,
(stupid idea in my opinion) you must wear a helmet. IT was part of the
"let those who ride decide" campaign several years ago when the lifted the helmet law.
bowwow said:
it is about LEO's targeting us and making their own judgement on what
is right and wrong.
For leo it is a judgement call. Then again IF you don't give them reason to notice you, there
should be no problem with them. If you live in fl get your stuff right and do what is needed.
I still have to fix the tag thing on my bike, it's not illuminated yet. And I have no problem with
that.
It is required for cars. Only its not a moving violation, it's an equipment violation with
no point assessment.
Herein lies my problem with this new law.
jeffrow334 said:
He was cooling down at a light and drove about 100 yards and flipped
it down and got a ticket. You don't even have to ride with a helmet down
here so he was a little miffed.
your next jeffrow..The part about the helmet was already covered above.
Here Eye protection is required at all times while operating a motorcycle.
Qualifying eye protection is described as, any perscription eyewear, dot motorcycle shield,
or eyewear specifically designed for motorcycle riding. A windscreen or windjam of a motorcycle
is not eye protection.
I wear perscription glasses at all times. Last week I got pulled over because the officer
couldn't tell i had any on. I was royally ticked when i got pulled over. I wasnt speeding, or driving
unsafe in any way. When he told me that he didnt notice my glasses i was quite happy. He told me to
have a nice day and I rode on. This was maybe the second time I was pulled over and not issued a
ticked for some lame bs. ( and that includes driving a cage as well).
I do not forsee all of these laws lasting very long. Most have merit in theory only. Some are totally insane
and discriminatory toward cyclists. For those of you who live here in fl you have probably seen the bikes
doing wheelies while traveling the interstates. Stupid idea, these idiots deserve the fines. This law I support.
Do not get me wrong , I love watching the stunt guys. Just not going up the middle of I-4 at 80mph in moderate traffic.
That is the wrong place and time. Find a place, get an approval from the land owner, hold them not liable.
Guys I know have even draw up a schedule and times and had them approved with small airports and malls to do stunting.
Thye small airport even charges a small admission. Enjoy yourselves , do your stunts. Just do them in a safe place.
And for all of you that dont want to come to florida because of some laws you dont like. fine. Stay the ef out of here.
It leaves me more room to ride without some out of state idiot on a bike acting the fool. We dont want you here anyway.
Which means you may never learn the feeling of taking a leisurly ride in a weekend morning without the lid. It can and is
quite enjoyable when done RESPONSIBLY!!!
Stay safe on the roads, and enjoy the ride.