2024 LE at Moore Mafias

270kg in CA (595.3lbs) according to the web page.
Hayabusa 264 kg (582 lb.), according to web page.
Damn, Busa got fat and the Kawasaki slimmed down some. You got me. If the ZX14R exhaust isn't Euro 5 compliant, that may give the Busa a few less pounds when dumping the stock pipe. I really was thinking that Kawasaki was 40 lb heavier. Probably in my mind comparing the first model (or come to think of it the Concourse) to the Gen 1.
Much smaller difference than I thought, sorry.
 
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270kg in CA (595.3lbs) according to the web page.
Hayabusa 264 kg (582 lb.), according to web page.
Damn, Busa got fat and the Kawasaki slimmed down some. You got me. If the ZX14R exhaust isn't Euro 5 compliant, that may give the Busa a few less pounds when dumping the stock pipe. I really was thinking that Kawasaki was 40 lb heavier. Probably in my mind comparing the first model to the Gen 1.
Much smaller difference than I thought, sorry.
Are you running a lighter exhaust , or are you running standard on your Gen 3 ? Most people as we know start there , then wheels etc .
 
Yoshimura 4 into 1 stainless (AT2). BST Wheels.
Need to find a place to weigh the bike.
Right under your picture:
Show us your Gen 3 best picture | Gen 3 Busa Information
Well , that is a good start , it is great fun making the bike your own . A lot of good Gen 3 bikes being updated , just like all the Hayabusa Gens before , a very solid history you are all adding too . I would probably take a little time to update yourself on any bike stats before posting , just because that is best place to start from in a conversation . Cheers
 
You don't pay attention to what I write, put words in my mouth, and frankly you don't seem honest.
The wheelie University was a huge help, and I imagine the wheelie machine will be an effective shortcut to hours and hours of practice (but more importantly wear and tear on the bike, and risk of dumping it every time the front tire hits the road again). There are riders out there who are short on experience with lightweight bikes but who want to wheelie which is a problem when your bike is over 500 lbs. I was making banter with an Australian, and you criticized me for it.
Any third party would say that my comment about liking the Kawasakis with the exception of not wanting to pay for a $900 valve job has been more than validated. You like and prefer the monocoque frame and think that you can get a valve cover on it off faster than the Hayabusa. Maybe you're the guy who needs to stay in your lane.
And I'm still willing to put money down that I could have a quicker lap time on my bike than any ZX14 that is either heavier or has an extended swingarm, and let's face it that seems to be about 99% of them.
You don't get deference by being disingenuous, attacking others, or so egotistical you can't admit that you're making a losing argument.
I'm going to sign off now before I let my temper get the better of me.
PS I'm calling b******* on a 150 mph wheelie. Even to The Ghost Rider. I've been 150 mph, and the force of that wind is like a fire hose. Maybe maybe maybe somebody could lift that front tire an inch or two without flipping the bike, but that's not the kind of wheelie we're talking about is it? Any higher at 150 and I don't see how the bike doesn't flip. Which is why I think the wings on that TTS Superbusa are scary as hell. I've seen the Ghost Rider videos, I've seen impressive fast wheelies, but I don't think any of them were at 150 or more.

Again, you know Nothing about what you are talking about...Nothing!
And I don't seem honest?
I back everything up I say, and usually with pictures...and witnesses...4 have been old org members...and They took the pics!
You dont belive a 150mph wheelie is possible?!
lmfao!!! Again..You know Nothing about what you speak of!
Why don't you search the Euro wheelie contests...they go over 200mph!
Yeah, look it up!
And guess what, that 500 lb+ Busa is Easier to wheelie than a 1000, or a smaller bike; why? Because of the extra weight!
It makes the bike move around slower, and be less twitchy in the air, but again...how would you know that?
Heck, you think the Ghost Rider is a fraud too.
Again, I gave you good advice, you basically called me a liar, cant have a realistic conversation because of a temper, continue to argue over things that you have Zero Experience with, and when you don't like friendly advice, you can't take it, lmao.
Now you're all friendly with RoadToad1340, because you can't deny his bike.
But, I'm a liar who tried to sabatoge you by encouraging you to adjust your own valves...and again tried to sabatoge your dreams of a wheelie machine making you a wheelie rider.
I apparently have not worked on countless bikes, posted multiple how-to mod threads, a wheelie video, met org members in person, let them see and photograph wheelies, flash their ecu's, and help them work on their bikes in person.
After you work on enough different bikes, you just do it, you don't complain it's harder than something else.
If you have to remove a cam, it IS easier when there are no frame rails on the sides of the engine, regardless what you had to remove to get to it.
But, you have already proven that you know everything(even things you have Zero experience in), so why anyone would try to sway you at this point is futile.
You have a bad attitude, pretty childish really.
Reread anything I posted, it's all true.
You don't think so? Ooohhh, oh no....lmao
 
I forgot that you can't delete posts. I don't know where I got that 40 lb difference stuck in my head, but it's embarrassing. I think at a bike show in conversation when the second generation ZX14R was new. Oh well, live and learn.
 
You have a bad attitude, pretty childish really.
Reread anything I posted, it's all true.
No, drooler, it's not. I could go back and list, and it's a long list, all of your errors, but I don't have the inclination.
But please, get it through your head once and finally, I don't give a rat's ass about details with valves, removing plastic, or removing cams. I said I wouldn't want to pay for a valve job on a ZX 12 or 14. And you criticized me. And I had a valid point. And you don't have the honesty or integrity to concede.
The guy running the wheelie University is a pro stunter. His whole life and business is about encouraging people (particularly those who don't have access to dirt bikes) to get the nose up and be able to hold it there. At his school he has a wheelchair, and he encourages the students to go buy a cheap used one, with which you can practice finding the balance point. He actually talks at length about how our brains are wired to panic at falling over backwards and that is the exact weak point you need to practice to be able to wheelie successfully. Please, give us all a lengthy lecture about how he knows nothing, and wheelchairs are nothing like doing a wheelie on the road. The longer and angrier the better, it really bumps up the value of this forum. Or you could go look in the mirror, because maybe I'm not the child in this debate.
I have spent a LOT of time watching motorcycle videos on YouTube. Granted the subject matter isn't easy to film, but I've never seen wheelies at or above 150mph. Show me one where it's easy to tell that they are not simply going around 100 or maybe 120. If there are contests in Europe that I've never seen you should be able to find a link pretty easily. And then I'll admit that I'm wrong. That's called being a grown up. *But I'll bet none of the bikes in that contest have these:
Because that would lead to this:
 
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No, drooler, it's not. I could go back and list, and it's a long list, all of your errors, but I don't have the inclination.
But please, get it through your head once and finally, I don't give a rat's ass about details with valves, removing plastic, or removing cams. I said I wouldn't want to pay for a valve job on a ZX 12 or 14. And you criticized me. And I had a valid point. And you don't have the honesty or integrity to concede.
The guy running the wheelie University is a pro stunter. His whole life and business is about encouraging people (particularly those who don't have access to dirt bikes) to get the nose up and be able to hold it there. At his school he has a wheelchair, and he encourages the students to go buy a cheap used one, with which you can practice finding the balance point. He actually talks at length about how are brains are wired to panic at falling over backwards and that is the exact weak point you need to practice to be able to wheelie successfully. Please, give us all a lengthy lecture about how he knows nothing, and wheelchairs are nothing like doing a wheelie on the road. The longer and angrier the better, it really bumps up the value of this forum. Or you could go look in the mirror, because maybe I'm not the child in this debate.

You're not the child??
YOU are the one calling me names.
YOU are the one calling me a liar?
No?
I never bashed the wheelie machine either, I just said it's nothing like the real thing...and it isn't.
You Cannot comment on that, as you have ridden neither the machine, nor the real thing.
Did you see the 200mph+ wheelie contests yet?
And I don't have honesty and integrity?
lol, really?
All for encouraging you to check your own valves(no, it is Not that hard).
For telling you the wheelie machine wasn't the same.
I have Honestly participated and helped Many in person here.
My Integrity got me over 3 dozen ecu's mailed to me to be flashed, and All of them sent back to happy and grateful members...and All for Free.
You have proven yourself to have whatever inability to have a reasonable conversation.
No respect, and no class.
You would be better to just block All of my posts, so that you no longer see them...and become triggered.
You are free to your own opinions(as we all are), but the blatant disrespect, and false accusations speak volumes about your character.
You have a nice day sir...
 
Holy crap, I went into You Tube and typed "Motorcycle wheelie School" and there sure are a lot of videos on there......a lot.....

Never knew wheeling was such a popular thing....we learned how to control them and try to avoid them in race school as doing wheelies slows lap times.

Lots of videos that say they are wheeling over 150 mph...

Here's a couple from the first of the list.....


 
You flash ECU's for free? That's great! You should do the same for valve jobs on the ZX 12 and 14!
You need to go into his build thread and see his work.....he tore apart the transmission in his GSXR1K and rebuilt it....I personally would be helpless to do that....

From what I see when I view @sixpack577 's build thread, he is very thorough and meticulous when he works on something...he is doing miracles with the build on that old GSXR....

And he's a wheelie nut so if he tells us something about wheeling a motorcycle, it would benefit us to listen.....I don't see any representatives from wheelie schools on here but we have a resource in our midst to assist us....

I personally have a lot of time for him.

My $0.02 for what it's worth...
 
Holy crap, I went into You Tube and typed "Motorcycle wheelie School" and there sure are a lot of videos on there......a lot.....
I'm just glad I found Wheelie University. His wheelie bike (the school has two of them) is the engineering solution that I've had in the back of my head since the '90s. People who never had and still don't have access to dirt bikes feel that absence in their motorcycling experience and do want to remedy it.
Lots of videos that say they are wheeling over 150 mph...
Love to see one. One that isn't taken by a cell phone from a distance and not from the side and not with any kind of speed tracking.
 
I'm just glad I found Wheelie University. His wheelie bike (the school has two of them) is the engineering solution that I've had in the back of my head since the '90s. People who never had and still don't have access to dirt bikes feel that absence in their motorcycling experience and do want to remedy it.

Love to see one. One that isn't taken by a cell phone from a distance and not from the side and not with any kind of speed tracking.
There must be some videos out there somewhere that data logs wheelie speeds..??

I know @sixpack577 used to race dirtbikes so that would have helped him learn how to wheelie....

I was a bit of a lunatic on my dirtbike....that's why I had to get rid of it.....
 
I personally have a lot of time for him.
I think internet forums are improved when the content has enough humility to admit when they are wrong. It's hard to be deferential absent of that.
Negativity isn't really an improvement either. How many times has he laughed his ass off at me just in this thread? I've been pretty restrained.
 
There must be some videos out there somewhere that data logs wheelie speeds..??
Absolutely! If I could do a 150 mph wheelie, I'd document the hell out of it. It's pretty easy to do these days with cameras and GPS that goes right into the video image. And for certain if I was running a contest for same...
 
I think internet forums are improved when the content has enough humility to admit when they are wrong. It's hard to be deferential absent of that.
Negativity isn't really an improvement either. How many times has he laughed his ass off at me just in this thread? I've been pretty restrained.
Hell I've been wrong more than once and been called out on it and survived...

I've also been called an idiot and stupid and I can guarantee you that even though this is internet fantasy land it still stings....but I hang in there due to mule-headed stubbornness.........

I will still stand beside @sixpack577 as he has never done anything to steer me wrong and has gone out of his way to help people on this forum and has for a long time...he's been here since 2009 afterall.....
 
Hell I've been wrong more than once and been called out on it and survived...

I've also been called an idiot and stupid and I can guarantee you that even though this is internet fantasy land it still stings....but I hang in there due to mule-headed stubbornness.........

I will still stand beside @sixpack577 as he has never done anything to steer me wrong and has gone out of his way to help people on this forum and has for a long time...he's been here since 2009 afterall.....


Thank you @Bumblebee
I have and do make plenty of mistakes, but I will say that I am honest, and have only good intentions towards everyone.
I don't wish to ever drag anyone into anything either, but I do greatly appreciate it that you and others will vouch for my honesty and ability.
 
I figure we all come on this forum for a reason....we like to interact with others and learn a thing or two while imparting our own knowledge...

In the end it's just the internet and we have to be able to identify and understand that...

If we were all to meet up and sit down with a cold beverage and talked, I'm sure we would enjoy our conversations.

Life is too precious and fragile to get wrapped around getting our nose out of joint over a forum....
 
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