45 Days on a Gen3 Hayabusa - 2023 Pashnit Touring
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Again? Again. Stuck on the bridge.
I stupidly shut the bike off. I should have known better. Takes a good 10 minutes of idling for the ship to pass by. Bike wouldn't start due to the Hot Start Issue. I had a huge line of cars behind me as the bridge opened up.
I'll have to read more up on how to deal with this.
Turned off by the kill switch, or the key?
I've read recently that if you turn on the key and open and close the throttle it will start easier when hot?
Crazy that the gen 3 still has the same starting quirk as the other generations
Makes no difference. For me at least. I can't see how those two things are even remotely related. (In case you're wondering, I never use the kill switch - just habit to always turn the bike on or off via the key).
Bad news is I'm probably the poster child for the Hot Start Issue problem the Gen3 has. My riding style is I don't commute any more post-covid, we all work from home now, and I don't joyride anymore (one-tank-rides), if I'm on the bike, I'm traveling dawn till dusk riding which involves a lot of start & stopping, and if I'm solo riding there's lots of stopping and starting as I'm always taking pictures of something.
My assessment is after reading all the threads + riding a couple-more thousand miles (this bike is brand new) that cracking open the throttle all the way, wide open, then hitting the starter, seems to work as a simple solution, and I can get the (very warm) bike started on the 2nd or 3rd try.
How Suzuki can release a $20K motorcycle and not know the Gen3 had this Hot Start Issue that affects ALL it's fancy new motorcycles is beyond my level of layperson comprehension.
I've ridden 150,000 miles on Hayabusa's and none of my other (3) Hayabusas had this issue so specific, so pronounced, and so blatantly obvious as a design failure. I've owned a lot of bikes, and ridden a lot of bikes & bike brands, and the number of those bikes that had a Hot Start Issue. ZERO. None a one. Manufactures have been developing the motorcycle for 138 years, and this is where we're at after 138 years of development? Stuck on a bridge with a huge, long line of cars behind me, wondering why the shiny black motorcycle won't start?
It's pure madness for Suzuki to release its flagship motorcycle, knowing full well it has a Hot Star Issue that affects every Gen3 Hayabusa around the globe.
But life goes on. Not gonna cry about it. It is what it is. But it is wildly annoying.
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Have you experienced the brake recall issue or the QS issue?
This bike came with a Moore Mafia flash and the QS upgrade from Moore Mafia, so the previous owner paid some decent money to address those things. Although QS's are new to me, I think it works just fine. Haven't noticed anything out of sorts with the QS. Checked my vin, and it's not in the range of the brake recall issue but... I have noticed in extended braking situations, say a 25-mile stretch of curvy road where there is constant acceleration then aggressive deceleration into turns, we have a lot of that out here, that there is zero braking engagement for the first half of the level travel once the fluid is hot. Yeah, if you know what that is, super annoying. Pull the brake lever towards the bar and for the first half of the travel, nothing happens. In Iowa, you'd probably never notice that, but this is California and there are super curvy roads everywhere. With every Gen1, Gen2 & now Gen3, we the owners have complained about the brakes and most of us old timers here on this site have upgraded the brakes in some way. Braided lines made a huge difference on my Gen1 & Gen2 along with EBC Extreme Pro pads, but this level travel thing is annoying. Isn't this a radial master cylinder, and isn't that supposed to be better? Yah, nope. Don't notice it with normal use, but once we hit an aggressive stretch of road, where's my brakes? I'm pulling the brake lever almost to the bar to get engagement.
Rancho Seco is a Nuclear Power Plant southeast of Sacramento built in the late 1960s coming online in 1975. It used to be 25 miles from Sacramento, but as the city has expanded 20 miles eastward over the last 50 years. The city has gotten closer and closer to the nuclear power plant, and the cooling towers are clearly visible from the edge of the city as you drop out of the Sierra Nevada Foothills into the flat Central Valley. The plant was active in the late 70s, However, in 1978, a power supply failure for the plant's non-nuclear instrumentation system led to steam generator dryout. This triggered an automatic reactor shutdown. The accident was later deemed the third most serious safety-related occurrence in the United States to date, behind the Three Mile Island accident. In 1986, Chernobyl happened in Ukraine and that didn’t help public opinion of having the nuclear power plant in your backyard. It was finally permanently taken off-line in 1989 but the two cooling towers and reactor remain. The site is 2100 acres and in present day has opened up to the public, mainly there’s a small 160-acre lake here for fishing.
Through the years, it’s become tradition to take every new-to-me bike there and get a quick photo, blithely ignoring the bright red Authorized Personnel Only sign and riding right up to the cooling tower, which is massive at 425-foot high. The one time I came here on my TL1000R, a security guard trotted over and asked what I was doing. Just taking a photo and I’ll be gone. That simple answer seemed to satiate his curiosity or his annoyance with my flippant, wanton attitude towards bright red signs.
Through the years, it’s become tradition to take every new-to-me bike there and get a quick photo, blithely ignoring the bright red Authorized Personnel Only sign and riding right up to the cooling tower, which is massive at 425-foot high. The one time I came here on my TL1000R, a security guard trotted over and asked what I was doing. Just taking a photo and I’ll be gone. That simple answer seemed to satiate his curiosity or his annoyance with my flippant, wanton attitude towards bright red signs.
Parkfield - Pashnit Motorcycle Tour
The problem with digital cameras is you can take as many photos as you like. And when you’re in a place where there is a visual overload of sensory input, I tend to end up with many. Then I look at the camera display, and it says the card will take another, 9999 because the display only goes up to 10,000 photos. This is the case when we headed to a tiny ranching community, population 18, in the remote Central Coast Region near Cholame. (Pronounced cho-lah-mee) The Parkfield ride has become a favorite of the riders, and we were graced with two new riders on this tour, Barry & Nathan, plus 5 women. Nancy joined us later, which made it six. Roads in this region are especially delightful, short, quick and best described as swoopy.
Parkfield 2024 is already scheduled for April 5, 2024 if you can plan that far in advance, it sells out nearly a year in advance as soon as the alumni see the date is set. The Parkfield Tour is likely one of the most popular & well-loved tours by the riders, it's perfect and the same riders will sign up for it back-to-back years.
Headed 100 miles at daybreak into the SF Bay Area to meet the group
Familiar faces, constant smiles, Randy & I have been riding together for 15 years
Danny came on one tour, then a second, then bought a season pass. His plan is to ride all of them.
Luc is another rider that just asks for a Season Pass & comes on every tour we offer.
The problem with digital cameras is you can take as many photos as you like. And when you’re in a place where there is a visual overload of sensory input, I tend to end up with many. Then I look at the camera display, and it says the card will take another, 9999 because the display only goes up to 10,000 photos. This is the case when we headed to a tiny ranching community, population 18, in the remote Central Coast Region near Cholame. (Pronounced cho-lah-mee) The Parkfield ride has become a favorite of the riders, and we were graced with two new riders on this tour, Barry & Nathan, plus 5 women. Nancy joined us later, which made it six. Roads in this region are especially delightful, short, quick and best described as swoopy.
Parkfield 2024 is already scheduled for April 5, 2024 if you can plan that far in advance, it sells out nearly a year in advance as soon as the alumni see the date is set. The Parkfield Tour is likely one of the most popular & well-loved tours by the riders, it's perfect and the same riders will sign up for it back-to-back years.
Headed 100 miles at daybreak into the SF Bay Area to meet the group
Familiar faces, constant smiles, Randy & I have been riding together for 15 years
Danny came on one tour, then a second, then bought a season pass. His plan is to ride all of them.
Luc is another rider that just asks for a Season Pass & comes on every tour we offer.
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