EV vehicles

jellyrug said:
Bee, one day I am going to rent a Tesla model S Plaid, and run circles around your Busa, from 0-60, the 1/4, and everywhere else, just to rub it in and p you off.

insideevs.com

Tesla Model S Plaid Reportedly Sets New 1/4-Mile Record: Musk Responds

The Model S Plaid is one of the quickest production cars ever built, and it continues to set new records. Reports claim it covered the 1/4 mile in 8.8 seconds.
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You obviously have a very low opinion of what pisses me off....If buying a car that costs over $140k to out run a relatively inexpensive motorcycle is a fair comparison I'm guessing not.....

if I was after street domination I would have hunted around for an H2 or built a bike to be a street dominator, I had that option and basically still do if I wanted that but I'm happy with what I have.

Even a Tesla S Plaid doesn't do anything for me and I still think EV is not the way forward...
 
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jellyrug said:
I use to have a Prius, which was the joke of the town. One of my buddies always said: “Hey Mr. Prius, I really think you should sell your Busa and buy a moped”

Long story short, I drove it 40 miles to work on country roads every morning and it was always a challenge for me to play with the hybrid technology to see the best gas consumption I could get out of it. My best was 62 mpg.

Based on the kWh of a gallon of gas, most EV’s do over 100mpg.
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Sure they do, but not in the winter...

You are obviously a pro EV/greenie which is fine, you are entitled to that opinion...I am not however and I'm entitled to that opinion as well...

There will come a day I'm sure that I will be forced into buying an EV but I will do so kicking and screaming...
 
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Lots and lots of You Tube videos on the Tesla S Plaid that are not very complimentary....some depict how scary the car is at speed as it seems it wasn't designed to go as fast as it does...

I akin some of these to taking a stock Hayabusa and slapping a turbo on it but not setting up the rest of the bike.
 
Bumblebee said:
Sure they do, but not in the winter...

You are obviously a pro EV/greenie which is fine, you are entitled to that opinion...I am not however and I'm entitled to that opinion as well...

There will come a day I'm sure that I will be forced into buying an EV but I will do so kicking and screaming...
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You better call Kent Masters and tell him he is screwing up big time. See linky below.

www.reuters.com

Albemarle to build $1.3 bln lithium plant in South Carolina

Albemarle Corp said on Wednesday it had chosen Chester County, South Carolina, as the location for a $1.3 billion lithium processing plant it hopes will cement its status as a cornerstone of the rapidly growing U.S. electric vehicle industry.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

BTW, I don’t have an EV, I have a Japanese American made truck, with one of the sweetest V8’s I have ever driven. A few of them running around with over a million miles on the odo.

My wife drives a new Honda Civic, and don’t let the name fool you. The little 1500 motor has a far better volumetric efficiency, compared to a Busa at the same RPM. Like an 85% advantage.
 
jellyrug said:
You better call Kent Masters and tell him he is screwing up big time. See linky below.

www.reuters.com

Albemarle to build $1.3 bln lithium plant in South Carolina

Albemarle Corp said on Wednesday it had chosen Chester County, South Carolina, as the location for a $1.3 billion lithium processing plant it hopes will cement its status as a cornerstone of the rapidly growing U.S. electric vehicle industry.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

BTW, I don’t have an EV, I have a Japanese American made truck, with one of the sweetest V8’s I have ever driven. A few of them running around with over a million miles on the odo.

My wife drives a new Honda Civic, and don’t let the name fool you. The little 1500 motor has a far better volumetric efficiency, compared to a Busa at the same RPM. Like an 85% advantage.
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VolksWagon is building a battery plant here but building battery plants still doesn't impress me or give me the desire to run out and get an EV..

They just don't make any sense to me...our electrical grid is struggling now with it's current load and I know we aren't unique in this issue..

When somewhere like India or Pakistan with their billions of people and huge air pollution issues goes full EV and it works, I might lose some of my skepticism....
 
Bumblebee said:
You obviously have a very low opinion of what pisses me off....If buying a car that costs over $140k to out run a relatively inexpensive motorcycle is a fair comparison I'm guessing not.....

if I was after street domination I would have hunted around for an H2 or built a bike to be a street dominator, I had that option and basically still do if I wanted that but I'm happy with what I have.

Even a Tesla S Plaid doesn't do anything for me and I still think EV is not the way forward...
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Don't let that get to you Bee. If you want to beat a $160,000 electric car with your cheap old Busa. Just spend a few K more, turbo it and Shut the EVs are faster argument down.
 
Bumblebee said:
VolksWagon is building a battery plant here but building battery plants still doesn't impress me or give me the desire to run out and get an EV..

They just don't make any sense to me...our electrical grid is struggling now with it's current load and I know we aren't unique in this issue..

When somewhere like India or Pakistan with their billions of people and huge air pollution issues goes full EV and it works, I might lose some of my skepticism....
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We're the same here.
Our grid hasn't been kept up to date and it's fragile.. So they tell us. It's doesn't have the ability to support the number of rooftop solar installs.

And the possible demand for home and commercial ev chargers is proving more difficult than thought..
 
ottafish said:
We're the same here.
Our grid hasn't been kept up to date and it's fragile.. So they tell us. It's doesn't have the ability to support the number of rooftop solar installs.

And the possible demand for home and commercial ev chargers is proving more difficult than thought..
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My sister bought a Model X. They live in Austin Tx. Bought it when they moved there. The 110V garage wall outlet takes 2+ days to charge it. A 210V upgrade runs several thousand dollars.

They do have charging stations sprinkled around the city. So she will for instance plug it in at the grocery store and get a little bit of charge. And she doesn't drive long distances. So she isn't unhappy. Because she doesn't need it all that much. And the charging stations aren't free to use.

She says as long as it gets her to the airport, she's fine. Lol
 
Power grid infrastructure around the world varies country to country, but power output will need to increase remarkably in order to charge all of these EV vehicles everywhere by the 2030's which is counter-productive if power plants need to output even more power! That means even more fossil fuel to burn or nuclear elements!
Lithium waste is toxic and will be mined to even higher levels. No one is talking about what Lithium waste is going to do to everything! Our species will still pollute regardless of what ideas we come up with; there will always be another side-effect. I just smile and nod at the newest marketing campaigns for technology. Sometimes it isn't about the environment, but rather a new angle on something new to sell that sounds like the answer to all of our problems. Food for thought.
 
Tons of info out there on people running ICE on fractured gas vapors, browns gas, water injection, preheating gas....all have massive mpg(75 plus). I personally had an 87 escort hatchback that got 65mpg regularly. The tech is there. It isn't profitable to install it(for the companies and the government). Control, control, control. EV isn't a solution. It's a bandaid. If a quarter of the ICE vehicles are replaced with our current power grid, that many draws would crash it, rolling blackouts for every one, not just CA. The power companies for years have just pocketed their massive profits and put zero dollars into grid upgrades.
I might get an EV and charge it off a NG generator, but it won't be parked near my home. I love my family.
 
Kiwi Rider said:
Look, I realise we have a grid but I was talking about the extra demand of electricity from charging a million or more cars and trucks overnight in NZ, and can the actual cabling and sub stations handle that much current load? And do we have the extra generating capacity/ability to meet this extra demand?

If the whole population of NZ was using EV's, (and this is the general plan of the NZ Govt) how much extra load would that put on our grid and our generating capacity?

Look at California for example, they're already struggling to supply enough power just for air conditioning in homes during thier hottest months. How could they ever supply enough electricity for millions of cars and trucks?
www.forbes.com

California Is Facing An Electricity Crisis. But It Has Also Mandated A Switchover To Electric Vehicles

California is banning new gasoline cars by 2035 and many states are following its lead. EV switchover will work only if households can charge their cars 24X7. This requires policies to build up transmission lines and new generation capacity for uninterrupted electricity supply.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

This is exactly why hydrogen fuel is the only way out of this dilemma.
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for the people here who didn’t read the article you linked, you will find its an Op-ed… so its just an opinion. in their opinion they wonder if cali can keep up with the demand simply bc they issued alerts for people to voluntarily reduce power consumption for a few days. the writers failed to mention if the request was due an outage, plant shut down for maintenance/repairs, or testing purposes. also, in summary the authors feel the issues comes down to policy makers, not bc cali cant keep up with a plan to keep up with demand.

also hydrogen fuel cell vehicles still power an electric motor and use battery packs… not much different than an EV. so you can charge a battery at home or at some outlet just like you do for a cell phone or for hydrogen, you have drive somewhere to filled up compressed hydrogen. charging a battery of cheaper than “filling up” h2.
 
If politics would stay out of this EV ordeal everything would go smoothly.
 
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Old news, still not impressed...that car costs what $120K minimal....?

And it didn't exactly blow the bikes away, technically the Superbusa is a production bike, how would it fare I wonder?
 
....and a Tesla S Plaid is rated at over 1000 hp....any bike would have it's hands full against that sort of hp rated car.
 
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