Gen 3 Performance

While I was out running my bike to get the fuel stabilizer through it, a neighbor who lives around a km away was walking by and stopped in to chin wag...

He had a '17 GSXR 1K he sold last summer as he bought it new and had 2500 or so kms on it as he never has time to ride....I found out he was a long time GSXR rider with his first being an '86.

He said he was disappointed in Suzuki when it came to the gen 3 Hayabusa. He said he has watched all the videos and read all the literature on it and thinks Suzuki is relying too much on the aftermarket and tuners to get the bike where it should have been coming out of the factory. I said pretty much all manufacturers rely on those two things so why should Suzuki be any different.
todays motorcycles have to meet strict emission standards that previous models didnt have too. so i think suzuki did a good job improving on the engine for durability especially since many end up being modified and raced. they cant really sell it for its tops speed capability but they can brag about 1/4 mile times and how well the motor can handle abuse.
 
todays motorcycles have to meet strict emission standards that previous models didnt have too. so i think suzuki did a good job improving on the engine for durability especially since many end up being modified and raced. they cant really sell it for its tops speed capability but they can brag about 1/4 mile times and how well the motor can handle abuse.
Exactly, although for their time, the gen 2 had to meet Euro 3 emissions which at the time was restrictive too, that's why it had a catalytic converter and huge exhaust cans....

But, the tuners and aftermarket sorted that out. It neve became a barn burner with basic mods but was respectable (as we know). In comparison, the gen 3 will be the same, it is only competing against itself so that makes it a little easier in many ways.
 
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Note that Euro 5 has a lot more requirements to make it harder to defeat (it's actually an interesting read). I'm sure someone will do it but it's a new nut to crack, more complicated and will take a minute to do.
 
Note that Euro 5 has a lot more requirements to make it harder to defeat (it's actually an interesting read). I'm sure someone will do it but it's a new nut to crack, more complicated and will take a minute to do.
I'm surprised they can be unlocked at all...
 
A friend of mine had his Gen 3 on the dyno last week. Completely stock. They did 2 pulls, with the best being 157.8. He was disappointed. So was I. He was expecting around 180. The exhaust system on the new Busa is so restrictive. The bike can't breathe. He'll try it again when he gets his 4 into 1 and hopefully someone will unlock the ECU.
 
I disagree
Consider MooreMafia says the 147whp stock my friends 2018 gsxr1000R dyno'd to be average for those bikes.
And as I've said before, it gained 40whp from the pipe, filter, stacks and flash.
I attribute the huge gain to Euro restrictions/emissions, and that most of the hp was already available.
Think about it,
147 stock whp on a late model gsxr1k
That's down a solid 10-15hp from previous gens, but the extra 40hp on this one, would've likely been only 10 more on the previous gen.
Beings the gsxr1k is the
race team/factory test mule, and has all the fancy electronics the gen3 Busa got. I'm willing to bet, with all my authority in absoloute nothing...that 160whp stock is going to be average for the gen3...but it may very well become a 200whp monster with bolt-ons and a flash.
 
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I disagree
Consider MooreMafia says the 147whp stock my friends 2018 gsxr1000R dyno'd to be average for those bikes.
And as I've said before, it gained 40whp from the pipe, filter, stacks and flash.
I attribute the huge gain to Euro restrictions/emissions, and that most of the hp was already available.
Think about it,
147 stock whp on a late model gsxr1k
That's down a solid 10-15hp from previous gens, but the extra 40hp on this one, would've likely been only 10 more on the previous gen.
Beings the gsxr1k is the
race team/factory test mule, and has all the fancy electronics the gen3 Busa got. I'm willing to bet, with all my authority in absoloute nothing...that 160whp stock is going to be average for the gen3...but it may very well become a 200whp monster with bolt-ons and a flash.
Well far be it from me to dispute you on technical matters @sixpack577 (now politics, not so much, Haha). But how then can they give a rated power in marketing stuff and then have the bike limited beyond that? Also, I thought there were dyno runs on Gen 3's on youtube that were in the high 170's?
 
I disagree
Consider MooreMafia says the 147whp stock my friends 2018 gsxr1000R dyno'd to be average for those bikes.
And as I've said before, it gained 40whp from the pipe, filter, stacks and flash.
I attribute the huge gain to Euro restrictions/emissions, and that most of the hp was already available.
Think about it,
147 stock whp on a late model gsxr1k
That's down a solid 10-15hp from previous gens, but the extra 40hp on this one, would've likely been only 10 more on the previous gen.
Beings the gsxr1k is the
race team/factory test mule, and has all the fancy electronics the gen3 Busa got. I'm willing to bet, with all my authority in absoloute nothing...that 160whp stock is going to be average for the gen3...but it may very well become a 200whp monster with bolt-ons and a flash.
There are more than a few videos of the gen 3 on a dyno pumping out healthy 170-180 rwhp figures..

For the gen 3 to make 200 rwhp could be possible. Even the gen 2 was getting 185-190 with typical bolt ons and flash...
 
I disagree
Consider MooreMafia says the 147whp stock my friends 2018 gsxr1000R dyno'd to be average for those bikes.
And as I've said before, it gained 40whp from the pipe, filter, stacks and flash.
I attribute the huge gain to Euro restrictions/emissions, and that most of the hp was already available.
Think about it,
147 stock whp on a late model gsxr1k
That's down a solid 10-15hp from previous gens, but the extra 40hp on this one, would've likely been only 10 more on the previous gen.
Beings the gsxr1k is the
race team/factory test mule, and has all the fancy electronics the gen3 Busa got. I'm willing to bet, with all my authority in absoloute nothing...that 160whp stock is going to be average for the gen3...but it may very well become a 200whp monster with bolt-ons and a flash.
Yes, I agree. With 4 in1, fueling module and modified flash. You would be looking at easily 185RWH. But gen 3 already has more torque than gen 1 and 2, so I think to look out on the pull after mods. It will feel better and will beat any same modified gen1 and 2.
 
A friend of mine had his Gen 3 on the dyno last week. Completely stock. They did 2 pulls, with the best being 157.8. He was disappointed. So was I. He was expecting around 180. The exhaust system on the new Busa is so restrictive. The bike can't breathe. He'll try it again when he gets his 4 into 1 and hopefully someone will unlock the ECU.
Seems very low, what type of dyno?
 
Yes, I agree. With 4 in1, fueling module and modified flash. You would be looking at easily 185RWH. But gen 3 already has more torque than gen 1 and 2, so I think to look out on the pull after mods. It will feel better and will beat any same modified gen1 and 2.
It doesn't have more torque, it has better mid range than the other generations due to changes in cam profiles and throttle bodies.
 
Just in for her what do you think?

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Very curious of your thoughts on those wheels!

I'm really interested in them just can't decide to stick with them or hold out for carbon...
I got them because if you verify Carbon are great looking buy they are more spensive and they have a use time they are good to use until certain amount of time not sure if a couple of years
 
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