GUN CONTROL........ hahaha
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You mean training is not mandatory.....
That spells out a recipe for disaster right there having people with no clue walking around with a loaded firearm.
I don’t think is mandatory in any state. You simply go take a couple of hour class in which they talk about all the legal stuff and then they have each person handle a little revolver with dummy rounds and fire it once and you are done and can go get your permit to conceal carry.You mean training is not mandatory.....
Yikes!
When I was in a green suit, we did extensive weapon handling, training and firing yet on every exercise and even when deployed, we had several NDs (negligent discharges) I can only imagine how many 'incidents' this lack of training creates in the civilian world.
Nope, in Va, for concealed handgun permit you take a 6-8 hour safety class, OR...watch a 30 minute video online that explains the laws.
A video is great for people who truly know how to handle and use guns safely.
Not so much for those who don't.
After you complete either, you take your form to your county courthouse(or whatever county your city/town is in).
Fill out a form for a background check, and if you pass, your cc comes in the mail in 1-6 weeks.
A video is great for people who truly know how to handle and use guns safely.
Not so much for those who don't.
After you complete either, you take your form to your county courthouse(or whatever county your city/town is in).
Fill out a form for a background check, and if you pass, your cc comes in the mail in 1-6 weeks.
There is shooting ranges everywhere, but is up to people to pay and train on their own, at least in my neck of the woods. Is the same for hunting.... just go to a class a few hours long and get your papers and you are done.
Guess what Arch? To get a CCW permit in TN, you have to take a course and QUALIFY (albeit pretty easy). You are being dishonest in your statement that there are no controls...
...and there's part of the problem. Little training and responsibility equate to where weapon ownership is today.
I watched a documentary on firearms in the States and there were many cases where the handgun owner didn't even know where their weapon was or the weapon was in a night stand or somewhere a kid could very easily get hold of it.
It's not hard to get a weapon permit here in Canada but the regulations regarding the use, control and transport is very, very strict.
Weapons will be locked (trigger guard lock)at all times except on a range or actively hunting and separated from ammo (which is also locked in a separate container).
We have no open carry or concealed carry and have to belong to a gun club to own a hand gun. this explains the different classifications of firearms for anyone interested:
Classes of firearms - Royal Canadian Mounted Police
There are many guns in Canada and we have lots of gun shows and gun dealerships but we all know going into gun ownership what the rules are and what is at stake if we fail to follow them.
I watched a documentary on firearms in the States and there were many cases where the handgun owner didn't even know where their weapon was or the weapon was in a night stand or somewhere a kid could very easily get hold of it.
It's not hard to get a weapon permit here in Canada but the regulations regarding the use, control and transport is very, very strict.
Weapons will be locked (trigger guard lock)at all times except on a range or actively hunting and separated from ammo (which is also locked in a separate container).
We have no open carry or concealed carry and have to belong to a gun club to own a hand gun. this explains the different classifications of firearms for anyone interested:
Classes of firearms - Royal Canadian Mounted Police
There are many guns in Canada and we have lots of gun shows and gun dealerships but we all know going into gun ownership what the rules are and what is at stake if we fail to follow them.
If you served to protect 'my rights' (just like I did), then how do you justify your view? Aren't you supporting a position that takes those rights away and violates your oath?
Yes, it's not too complicated to manufacture an auto sear with basic machinist knowledge there's plenty of specs on the internet of how to do it - so why doesn't it happen? Guess Why? Because the federal law is pretty clear on the consequences, and law-abiding gun-owning citizens DON'T BREAK THE LAW. Go ahead and build a suppressor, and see what happens when you get caught. Nope, as a law-abiding gun-owning American, I follow the law and purchase mine (and wait almost a year for them to clear NFA jail).
Lots of ppl use the argument "The populace couldn't go up against the military"..well..first, the military wouldn't execute an illegal confiscation order (I wouldn't have, and neither would have any of my soldiers). Second, they are on the 2A side. So that leaves LE. Guess what, I'll bet if you asked the LE on this board if they were ordered to confiscate firearms from citizens illegally, they wouldn't do it either. Most LE, Fed, state and local I know have already told me that. That evens the odds quite a bit.
It's not gonna happen. The American experiment is different than any other nation in the world. I like it that way. My Dad always says, "if you are doing what everyone else is doing, it's probably the wrong thing". Let the other countries 'experiment' and watch the results...it's happening right now in South America.
But you don't have to take a course or get a permit to have one in most places as open carry, just pass the background check. So you can have a deadly weapon without training, which was my point. That is really the compromise that makes sense. Require training and insurance for gun ownership. I don't get how your right to have a gun is more important than my right to not be hurt by your weapon.
Gun people won't admit that this has gotten out of control and put up deflecting arguments like you are doing. I don't agree in the prohibition of weapons all together without amending the constitution, but a little common sense adjustment is necessary now. BTW: the constitution and the court rulings all allow gun control, you just can't take them away completely.
piratediverjefff
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I believe out here now you have to take a course for handgun purchases but not sure.Handling a firearm is way more simple than driving a car,as long as you assume it's always loaded and never point it at anything/anyone you don't intend to shoot.On a range they're extremely diligent on posted rules and will yell at you/boot you out in a heartbeat if not followed.
The funniest arguement here that I keep hearing is "our elected officials".
As if these people actually serve and represent us.
No, they are a majority of " yes men"(and women). Who do 1 of 2 things.
1. Actually stand up for what's right and fight for positive change or reform. And are suppressed, slandered, or silenced for it.
2. They understand their position...and do what they are told. What they are told by their superiors behind the scenes.
You know why people hate Trump?
Because he's keeping his main promise...trying to drain the swamp.
These self serving bastards that "represent" us are not going down without a fight.
When a non politician proves what some of us know. You Can run this country like a business, cut out the political bs, and actually make progress quickly.
Politicians, social media, and "my feelings are hurt" pc nonsense IS the problem.
Everyone is entitled and deserving, at least that's what the gov't says.
It's not if, but when, the U.S publicly becomes under U.N world leadership.
The f'tard millenials and their future voting spawn will eventually hand our rights over, in turn for living in a gov't created and run Utopia(or so they think).
Yet, a one world gov't/nwo is still conspiracy nonsense to the narrow minded and foolish.
Gun control is a huge hurdle for them.
Once it's accomplished, it'll be too late.
As if these people actually serve and represent us.
No, they are a majority of " yes men"(and women). Who do 1 of 2 things.
1. Actually stand up for what's right and fight for positive change or reform. And are suppressed, slandered, or silenced for it.
2. They understand their position...and do what they are told. What they are told by their superiors behind the scenes.
You know why people hate Trump?
Because he's keeping his main promise...trying to drain the swamp.
These self serving bastards that "represent" us are not going down without a fight.
When a non politician proves what some of us know. You Can run this country like a business, cut out the political bs, and actually make progress quickly.
Politicians, social media, and "my feelings are hurt" pc nonsense IS the problem.
Everyone is entitled and deserving, at least that's what the gov't says.
It's not if, but when, the U.S publicly becomes under U.N world leadership.
The f'tard millenials and their future voting spawn will eventually hand our rights over, in turn for living in a gov't created and run Utopia(or so they think).
Yet, a one world gov't/nwo is still conspiracy nonsense to the narrow minded and foolish.
Gun control is a huge hurdle for them.
Once it's accomplished, it'll be too late.
Almost his entire campaign leadership has been indicted and either been found guilty or pleaded guilty. Political witch hunts don't yield convictions like that! You can certainly say Trump has broken the flow in DC but what he has brought into the White House instead is a shame. BTW: any economist will tell you that you can't run a country like a business because it's not a for profit enterprise. That is pretty simple, don't know why people can't see that.
08BusaKY
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If Obama's DOJ, both Attorney General's, and top people in the FBI, IRS, the media, Clinton's were not so corrupt many more of them would have been indicted!!
If the corrupt Dem's get in they will want all guns! They want socialism, open boarders. This is obvious with the current border crisis.
If the corrupt Dem's get in they will want all guns! They want socialism, open boarders. This is obvious with the current border crisis.
You also can't run a country the way this one has been for decades.
We are seeing nothing new now, rather the fallout.
I agree on the "not for profit" part.
But not the typical run around bs, vs actually getting things done.
