Looks like a war is looming in Israel

[Blanca BusaLess]

You’ve not believed or acknowledged a single link I’ve posted.
Why TF would I post more for you? You on the side of angels who can do no wrong. You have your head buried in the sand telling yourself the deaths of 5,000 children is ok. Ariel Sharon was a murderer and war criminal. His right hand man throughout all that was guess who…..Netanyahu. Keep up the blind faith. Bibi says you’re doing great!

Who was the FSA? Free Syrian Army.
Who created them? Obama and the west trying to overthrow every despot in the Middle East.
Who encouraged the Syrians to rise up against Assad? Obama and his big good time mouth.
Who armed the FSA? We did.
Once the FSA got rolling and actually started making headwinds who left them there in the sand with nothing? We did.
Out of whose mouth did the ‘red line’ come from? Obama
Who sat and watched Assad massacre his own people after starting all of it?
The United States of America.
Facts you are free to ignore as usual.

 

[Red05]

War is not about fair, it’s about winning.
Israel did not start this, and Hamas will not stop until there is no Israel left. So there are two choices for Israel. Defend themselves, or surrender to Hamas. If they surrender, they will be executed en masse until there is not a single Jew left.

Hamas is not fighting the IDF, they are fighting anything and everything Jewish. The IDF is fighting Hamas, not Gaza.

Putting a stop to this simply means finding a new home for Israel, as the Arab world will never accept them being in Palestine.

This is the reality of the situation.

Trump is not threatening the massacre of anyone who is not a Trumper, you can’t compare that to the war in Israel.

There is no winning except for the leaders. The civilians on both sides have already lost. Ask the people just driven from their homes about reality. There is no justifying what is happening there. Stop it or stop supporting either vicious side. . As for the Trump example I was not comparing situations or crimes, I was saying that you can't blame someone if the person or party they voted for later commits an offense.

 

[jellyrug]

There is no winning except for the leaders. The civilians on both sides have already lost. Ask the people just driven from their homes about reality. There is no justifying what is happening there. Stop it or stop supporting either vicious side. . As for the Trump example I was not comparing situations or crimes, I was saying that you can't blame someone if the person or party they voted for later commits an offense.

Yep, lots of civilians lost on October 7th and many more to date. Terrible price to pay, both sides.

About the Trump example, if he had a written charter of Jihad to all Democrats, eliminate them from American soil and under those conditions I voted for him, then I deserve to suffer the consequences of my choice. Under those conditions, I would accept blame.

What is hard to understand, is why the Palestinians are not getting together as a nation and standing up to Hamas? Perhaps that is their choice? Perhaps they are afraid of retribution? Perhaps they want the same as Hamas? It is hard to grasp why they choose to endure the punishment of Hamas's actions as martyrs, without looking after their own interests to stop this.

 

[jellyrug]

You’ve not believed or acknowledged a single link I’ve posted.
Why TF would I post more for you? You on the side of angels who can do no wrong. You have your head buried in the sand telling yourself the deaths of 5,000 children is ok. Ariel Sharon was a murderer and war criminal. His right hand man throughout all that was guess who…..Netanyahu. Keep up the blind faith. Bibi says you’re doing great!

Who was the FSA? Free Syrian Army.
Who created them? Obama and the west trying to overthrow every despot in the Middle East.
Who encouraged the Syrians to rise up against Assad? Obama and his big good time mouth.
Who armed the FSA? We did.
Once the FSA got rolling and actually started making headwinds who left them there in the sand with nothing? We did.
Out of whose mouth did the ‘red line’ come from? Obama
Who sat and watched Assad massacre his own people after starting all of it?
The United States of America.
Facts you are free to ignore as usual.

How did the Free Syrian Army start?

The Free Syrian Army (FSA; Arabic: الجيش السوري الحر, romanized: al-jaysh as-Sūrī al-ḥur) is a big-tent coalition of decentralized resistance militias in the Syrian civil war founded on 29 July 2011 by Colonel Riad al-Asaad and six officers who defected from the Syrian Armed Forces.

Who funds the Free Syrian Army?

The Turkish Armed Forces often directly support the SNA during military operations. The Free Syrian Army (FSA) was the Syrian rebel faction most aligned with the Turkish state since the beginning of the Turkish involvement in the Syrian Civil War. For the FSA, Turkey was a sanctuary and a source of supply

The Free Syrian Army: A decentralized insurgent brand | Brookings

In this analysis paper, Charles Lister describes the evolution of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) throughout the Syrian war, analyzes the impact of U.S. foreign policy on the group's structure and functionality, and offers recommendations to U.S. policymakers.

www.brookings.edu

 

[Red05]

Israel did not start this

That is very debatable. It's a long history to study.

 

[jellyrug]

That is very debatable. It's a long history to study.

If you look at October 7th, there is no debate here about who started it.

If you go back in history, we can probably blame the British.

If you want to go back to 700 years BCE, we can probably blame the Philistines.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

OBAMA was the one who opened his mouth and said ‘red line’ challenging Assad. He and his admin not anyone else is responsible for the uprising.

Obama steps up military aid to Syrian rebels

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama's authorization of military aid to the Syrian rebels "dramatically" increases U.S. support for the opposition, the White House said Friday, while acknowledging that it will take time for the supplies to reach fighters struggling in their clashes with Syrian P

apnews.com

How many dead kids you hoping for today Jelly? Call your boy Bibi and let him know he’s not killing enough of them.

 

[Red05]

If you look at October 7th, there is no debate here about who started it.

If you go back in history, we can probably blame the British.

If you want to go back to 700 years BCE, we can probably blame the Philistines.

Maybe look at the military occupation in 1967 as well. Big development. As I said, it’s very debatable.

 

[jellyrug]

Maybe look at the military occupation in 1967 as well. Big development. As I said, it’s very debatable.

Didn't that start after Egypt's initial objective to seize a foothold on the Eastern bank of the Suez Canal and subsequently leverage these gains to negotiate the return of the rest of the Israeli-occupied Sinai Peninsula?

And then Nasser knew that his blockage of the Straits of Tiran from Israeli passage on 23 May 1967 might likely provide Israel with a reason to attack. Wasn't it commonly accepted as the reason the war became imminent after blocking shipping to Israel?

And before October 7th, today, after all that, the relationship between Egypt and Israel was pretty good.

 

[mark3evo]

If you go back in history, we can probably blame the British.

it's always our fault

 

[Red05]

Didn't that start after Egypt's initial objective to seize a foothold on the Eastern bank of the Suez Canal and subsequently leverage these gains to negotiate the return of the rest of the Israeli-occupied Sinai Peninsula?

And then Nasser knew that his blockage of the Straits of Tiran from Israeli passage on 23 May 1967 might likely provide Israel with a reason to attack. Wasn't it commonly accepted as the reason the war became imminent after blocking shipping to Israel?

And before October 7th, today, after all that, the relationship between Egypt and Israel was pretty good.

Always a rational explanation when Israel is involved isn’t there? It’s like that bratty little brother that you keep telling people is a good person.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Always a rational explanation when Israel is involved isn’t there? It’s like that bratty little brother that you keep telling people is a good person.

You are arguing with one who will never see any fault or blame on the Israelis part. Just little angels they are. Give it up.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

You are arguing with one who will never see any fault or blame on the Israelis part. Just little angels they are. Give it up.

Ha, give it up? What’s it going to take for you to give it up?

 

[jellyrug]

it's always our fault

It was close 15 England 16 South Africa, so the rainbow nation will call it quits. So all is forgiven.
Maybe we can share the secrets with Israel and Gaza of how to change a socialist terrorist organization into capitalists, get them to lay down arms, abolish apartheid and form a rainbow nation.

 

[mark3evo]

Yes I watched that , SA had more grit

Have you been to South Africa , one of our Sales executives went to Jo’burg and during the evening he walked across the road from the Hotel to a shopping mall. Next day the South African company were horrified , they said you should have called a Taxi for the 400 yards trip, too dangerous to walk

Most Private schools for the wealthy have armed security

I have met plenty of Brit’s returning from South Africa citing its too dangerous to raise a family

 

[jellyrug]

Yes I watched that , SA had more grit

Have you been to South Africa , one of our Sales executives went to Jo’burg and during the evening he walked across the road from the Hotel to a shopping mall. Next day the South African company were horrified , they said you should have called a Taxi for the 400 yards trip, too dangerous to walk

Most Private schools for the wealthy have armed security

I am from there originally, left in 96. Will be back for Christmas, 2 weeks.

You get the best of first world and ten miles down the road you get the worst of third world. Like here, there are some places in Chicago and NY you don't walk at night. That includes just about everywhere in Johannesburg. The Western Cape is still quiet and safe and there are some really nice places.

My last visit, the Hotel was nicer than anything State side, but there was no shampoo in the room. Went to the front desk to ask and found out they have no idea what shampoo is.

Taxi from the airport to the hotel cost me $10.00 a Mercedes, but the driver had no front teeth.

BTW, back in the day I use to walk Oxford Street on a Friday night with a party from one block to the next and tons of people having fun. Last time I was there, I did not feel safe either, homeless people sleeping on the sidewalks and it changed dramatically over the years.

 

[mark3evo]

I watched this tonight most of the issues we have today come from the Great War - WW1
WW1 lead to WW2 . The fall of the Ottoman Empire created the idea of Israel.

The below vid , compares that if the US civil war happened with the same population today
6 million would have died

Below vid is thought provoking

 

[jellyrug]

OBAMA was the one who opened his mouth and said ‘red line’ challenging Assad. He and his admin not anyone else is responsible for the uprising.

Obama steps up military aid to Syrian rebels

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama's authorization of military aid to the Syrian rebels "dramatically" increases U.S. support for the opposition, the White House said Friday, while acknowledging that it will take time for the supplies to reach fighters struggling in their clashes with Syrian P

apnews.com

How many dead kids you hoping for today Jelly? Call your boy Bibi and let him know he’s not killing enough of them.

BS
When the US offered support, the uprising was already long in happening and thousands were already killed.

C’mon Saiid, I have to tell you what happened and is still happening in your family’s country?

So I take it you are with Assad?

I hope no children are harmed, but it is unlikely for Israel to surrender due to Hamas using humans to hide behind.

So you supported the use of Chemical weapons in Syria then? See, I am reading your links you post.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Hmm, ’Saiid’ again.

Saʽid (Arabic: سعيد Saʽīd), also spelled Saʽeid, Said, Saïd, Sid, Saeed Saed, Saied, Sayeed or Sayid, is a male Arabic given name which means "blessed (in Quranic Classical Arabic), good luck, joy" or "happy, patient". The name stems from the Arabic verb sa'ada (سَعَدَ - 'to be happy, fortunate or lucky').

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Hmm, ’Saiid’ again.

Saʽid (Arabic: سعيد Saʽīd), also spelled Saʽeid, Said, Saïd, Sid, Saeed Saed, Saied, Sayeed or Sayid, is a male Arabic given name which means "blessed (in Quranic Classical Arabic), good luck, joy" or "happy, patient". The name stems from the Arabic verb sa'ada (سَعَدَ - 'to be happy, fortunate or lucky').

It’s me! He likes to use my name to infer partiality and inability to not be.
We could use his name and try to associate him with people who did actually exterminate people. But I won’t. Hahahaha