Looks like a war is looming in Israel

[Blanca BusaLess]

Ummm. You are sort of leaving out the part about what those Paragliders did. They paraglided in and began slaughtering civilians. That's a key fact as to why they are suffering the retribution they are.

Of course and absolutely. No doubt. Where have I said any different? Yes blood thirsty murderers went in and slaughtered a bunch of innocent people. They need to pay for that. I left it out because it’s already known and I’ve already acknowledged it several times.
I’ve also said numerous times Israel has a right to respond to that. Still doesn’t negate the total worldwide embarrassment almighty Israel suffered that day.
But I’ve also pointed out how past atrocities committed by the IDF most likely fueled the desire to commit those acts. The UN Secy was right when he said ‘it didn’t happen in a vacuum.’ He was chastised for speaking the truth because God forbid anyone who points out or criticizes Israel is immediately labeled an anti-semite and people are then expected not to listen to them.
Some people want to gleefully ignore the fact Israel has been sanctioned more times than all other countries combined for human rights violations. That is a fact. Not my behavior, not my opinion but fact. And what’s disgusting is some here turn their nose up when confronted by it.

 

[Bumblebee]

Honestly I don't know what Hamas expected when they went in there and butchered those people....

Did they expect Israel to wave it off and say and do nothing.....they must have had some idea this would spark outrage and eventually the actions we see unfolding now....

Even if Hamas says this is retribution for any past injustices or unsavory actions of the IDF, this doesn't seem very intelligent in my opinion.

 

[jellyrug]

They control 100% of a Palestinians life. That IS a fact
They are ruthlessly bombing women and children because they were caught with their pants down and embarrassed before the world by a bunch of guys in paragliders. Now trying to save face by flattening everything is vindictive on an extreme scale. That IS a fact.
Now I’m not man enough to have an adult discussion? LMAO. Who is the one refusing to accept facts and history. It is YOU. Israeli soldiers have raped, murdered, cut babies out of mothers stomachs, set houses on fire and killed those who ran out basically the exact same things Hamas recently did. That IS HISTORICAL DOCUMENTED fact and there is nothing Anti-Semitic about citing history.
You are the only one with his head so far up Bibi’s ass you can’t see it and won’t admit it.

To the man who answers no questions, because he can’t.

Here is another question for which he has no answers:

If you were Israel, how would you respond to the video below, in dealing with plain clothed humans, where you don’t know who is enemy or who is civilian?

What would you do, pack your bags and leave to never land?

Let me guess, there will be no answer, just another insult from you.

 

[jellyrug]

Sounds like some of Saiid’s buddies are en route to visit. No doubt, they will do the same thing here as they did October 7th, should they have the means.

But hey, the Israelites are supposedly just as bad, so who cares, right?

 

[Kiwi Rider]

2nd half of this vid shows the Israeli perspective.

 

[mark3evo]

BOTH sides are evil. The world knows it. USA knows it but is afraid to admit it.
We didn’t eliminate the Vietcong or the Taliban. And Israel won’t eliminate Hamas no matter how many people they kill. So let them do what they are doing and then the world can act surprised when another 10/7 happens to them.

too much money transferring between Israel and US Congress, war is good for the US military complex and shareholders

there is no more diplomacy in the world

Biden tells the American public that US can fight multiple wars, all the 'Hawks' are still living in 1991 - the world has moved on the 'foes' are now more sophisticated.

Eisenhower was a great US president ..Why ? he had his boots on the ground and he knew too well US could never afford another WW2 type campaign.

Today's hot heads behind the scenes in Washington do not understand history and the importance of diplomacy.
This could end now with Biden saying STOP to the IDF - but he won't his advisors are not writing the cue cards for him.

when WWIII kicks off - all those heads in the West will say how did this start.

 

[mark3evo]

Sounds like some of Saiid’s buddies are en route to visit. No doubt, they will do the same thing here as they did October 7th, should they have the means.

But hey, the Israelites are supposedly just as bad, so who cares, right?

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Mostly young men of fighting age are entering Europe and the UK - under the disguise of economic migrants, passports thrown away.
we have no idea what type of person is entering and becoming sleeper cells

 

[Bumblebee]

Mostly young men of fighting age are entering Europe and the UK - under the disguise of economic migrants, passports thrown away.
we have no idea what type of person is entering and becoming sleeper cells

WW3 will be an entirely different animal than what was ever faced before...

These sleeper cells will engage targets within their host countries and act like the partisans did to German troops in WW2....it won't be safe anywhere.

The only saving grace is in the US where citizens are armed and will potentially eliminate these cells on their own...

In other "neutered countries", these cells will work with impunity and do lots of damage.

And if a draft comes, it will be next to impossible to get people from this generation to serve.

 

[jellyrug]

WW3 will be an entirely different animal than what was ever faced before...

These sleeper cells will engage targets within their host countries and act like the partisans did to German troops in WW2....it won't be safe anywhere.

The only saving grace is in the US where citizens are armed and will potentially eliminate these cells on their own...

In other "neutered countries", these cells will work with impunity and do lots of damage.

And if a draft comes, it will be next to impossible to get people from this generation to serve.

It seems Americans have a lot of political differences and squabbles among themselves, but when it really comes to the crunch, they stand together as one. Well, at least that holds true for most who have been here a few generations. Then there are some you had a special name for at your end, I can't remember, but it was well said. I know someone here mentioned he won't be in the trenches with me.

 

[busafan08]

I just hope and pray common sense prevails and that a ceasefire is close at hand Emotions are running hot at the moment everywhere especially other neighbouring countries near Israel and I am sure we all don t want this to escalate to a bigger war

 

[jellyrug]

I just hope and pray common sense prevails and that a ceasefire is close at hand Emotions are running hot at the moment everywhere especially other neighbouring countries near Israel and I am sure we all don t want this to escalate to a bigger war

Don't think Israel would agree to a ceasefire. Palestinians follow no rules, can't be trusted, it would just prolong the agony even further.
You only have to look at behavior world wide, to realize Gaza is Hamas, almost throughout the entire population.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Now they’re my buddies. Bahahahahaha!
Oooh he criticized Israel and cited history. He must be friends with Hamas! Bahahahaha!
What a tool….

 

[jellyrug]

Now they’re my buddies. Bahahahahaha!
Oooh he criticized Israel and cited history. He must be friends with Hamas! Bahahahaha!
What a tool….

Try answer post 303, or be my guest and just keep blowing hot air, with empty content.
Read the last sentence of post 303 a few times, and see how spot on I can be and how well I know you.

Read the first sentence of post 292, a couple of times and see if you get it.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

 

[jellyrug]

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I rest my case.

 

[Red05]

Ummm. You are sort of leaving out the part about what those Paragliders did. They paraglided in and began slaughtering civilians. That's a key fact as to why they are suffering the retribution they are.

That's just it. The majority of the sufferers are not the ones that carried out or instigated the October 7th attack. They are innocent civilians.

 

[jellyrug]

That's just it. The majority of the sufferers are not the ones that carried out or instigated the October 7th attack. They are innocent civilians.

How do you know? They don’t wear uniforms, are with those who may be civilians, all support each other, all live together. How do you know who may innocent and who may not be innocent? When we see little kids throw rocks at the Israelis, storm tanks, are their parents who raised them and taught them that innocent? Will they kill a Jew if they get the opportunity or won’t they?

How do we know that the numbers Hamas publishes of civilians killed are accurate? Can we trust them and their morals?

 

[Red05]

How do you know? They don’t wear uniforms, are with those who may be civilians, all support each other, all live together. How do you know who may innocent and who may not be innocent? When we see little kids throw rocks at the Israelis, storm tanks, are their parents who raised them and taught them that innocent? Will they kill a Jew if they get the opportunity or won’t they?

How do we know that the numbers Hamas publishes of civilians killed are accurate? Can we trust them and their morals?

I don't trust Hamas nor about to believe that every Palestinian Gaza citizen had a hand or a voice in the decision for the original attack. I understand and respect you sticking to your principles but do not agree with your assessment that Israel is without guilt in the current situation.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Hamas trains kids to kill.

Oh wait. Those are Israeli settlers teaching their kids how to throw grenades.
My bad. Move along. Nothing to see here.

 

[jellyrug]

I don't trust Hamas nor about to believe that every Palestinian Gaza citizen had a hand or a voice in the decision for the original attack. I understand and respect you sticking to your principles but do not agree with your assessment that Israel is without guilt in the current situation.

I agree with everything you said. There can however be differing degrees of guilt. War is evil, unfortunately most of the Arab wars between themselves and others through history were started by the Arabs. Not all, but most, going back as far as 700BC to today and then most recent now.