New Florida Motorcycle laws-Effective 01 Oct, 2008
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ToXSicK RoCKeT
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WOW.......and i thought my state SUCKED.... BUNCH OF RED DIAPER DOPER BABIES :sneaky2: well if it sicks i bet CALI will be next 
:moderator: the biker community needs to unite and FIGHT THE HELL OUT OF THIS ONE BOYS!!! fight for all of us, because you can MARK my words..... it wont stop in florida! FIGHT FOR 
!!!!!
:moderator: the biker community needs to unite and FIGHT THE HELL OUT OF THIS ONE BOYS!!! fight for all of us, because you can MARK my words..... it wont stop in florida! FIGHT FOR !!!!!
Benesesso
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I think all states are required to honor the plate/registration requirements of other states-at least it used to be that way.
I suspect someone will challenge the legality of these new laws, and probably win. Shouldn't take more than one high-speed video, taken by some legit. lab. that shows how wheels/tires can easily lose momentary contact with the ground on bumps, etc.
I suspect someone will challenge the legality of these new laws, and probably win. Shouldn't take more than one high-speed video, taken by some legit. lab. that shows how wheels/tires can easily lose momentary contact with the ground on bumps, etc.
ToXSicK RoCKeT
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TRUE DAT!!! i sure the F@^K wouldnt stop! your better off to roll the dice.....IDIOT'S!!
first of all...the plate mere has to be parallel to the ground, as paragraph 3 of that section states...
316.2085 Riding on motorcycles or mopeds.--
...if you do a wheelie? you merely inform the "officer" what a tremendous effort it was to regain control after hitting that pothole or bump in the road!
well not much say about the third one...unless you knew for a fact some punk Latin Kings or RR were following you and claim fear of gang violence.
the real kick int he balls comes from the:
IV. AMENDMENTS/COUNCIL SUBSTITUTE CHANGES
Committee Amendment
On March 13, 2008, the Committee on Infrastructure favorably reported the bill with a strike-all
amendment, and an amendment to the strike-all amendment. The amendment creates a new s.
316.1926, F.S., which provides that violations of s. 316.2085(2) or (3), F.S., regarding motorcycle
operation, or violations of the speeding laws in s. 316.183(2), 316.187, and 316.189, F.S., in excess
of 50 miles per hour over the limit, are moving violations punishable as provided in Chapter 318.
...and to modify Mr Heston's words...you can have my money, my busa and my guns...when you take them from my cold dead hands.
316.2085 Riding on motorcycles or mopeds.--
...if you do a wheelie? you merely inform the "officer" what a tremendous effort it was to regain control after hitting that pothole or bump in the road!
well not much say about the third one...unless you knew for a fact some punk Latin Kings or RR were following you and claim fear of gang violence.
the real kick int he balls comes from the:
IV. AMENDMENTS/COUNCIL SUBSTITUTE CHANGES
Committee Amendment
On March 13, 2008, the Committee on Infrastructure favorably reported the bill with a strike-all
amendment, and an amendment to the strike-all amendment. The amendment creates a new s.
316.1926, F.S., which provides that violations of s. 316.2085(2) or (3), F.S., regarding motorcycle
operation, or violations of the speeding laws in s. 316.183(2), 316.187, and 316.189, F.S., in excess
of 50 miles per hour over the limit, are moving violations punishable as provided in Chapter 318.
...and to modify Mr Heston's words...you can have my money, my busa and my guns...when you take them from my cold dead hands.
NOTE TO SELF" Stay out of FL on my Motorcycle"
Ditto. The long arm of the law.
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WOW.......and i thought my state SUCKED.... BUNCH OF RED DIAPER DOPER BABIES :sneaky2: well if it sicks i bet CALI will be next
I'm confused. Why is it that the initial reaction is to be pissed because you can no longer break the law without costing yourself an arm and a leg? The laws haven't changed, just the penalties.
Why not just comply with the law and avoid the penalties?
--Wag--
before they start nalling the guy for improper tag mount I wish they would make it manditory to have insurance on their bikes down there. That would cut a lot of the BS out I belive. If there premiums started going up with every wreck and ticket maybee they would think twice about doing that nonsense.
bowwow
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I believe there is more to the plate law than just being horizontal and permanently afixed. I know you are required to have a light on it. And this "new" law is not about stiffer penalties, it is about LEO's targeting us and making their own judgement on what is right and wrong. Some will abuse this "power".
I am in full agreement on the follow the law issue, but I am afraid of the abuse that this will allow. I have a friend who is a county sherrif. He has on numerous occasions told me that if a license plate light is too dim for the plate to be read, and that's at the officers discretion, then that's a tag violation. I can only imagine an officer giving me a 1k ticket because he had a bad day. Or he hates sports bikes.
I keep my ducks in a row, but I know that if they want to they can write you a ticket. And with fines like that, and the thought of a crooked or pissed cop... I see a lot of runners.
Overall I agree with the 50+ law, and the wheelie one. However it scares me that an improper tag carries the same fine, and only for motorcycles. Targeting me because I choose to ride, and being able to take a way my license at an officers discretion? Just not what I like to hear.
landmissle
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I'm selling my bike!
I think the main point is being missed here... this is not how to "talk you way out" (ain't gonna happen), what is a legal tag hang, or about multi-jurisdictional enforcement..
This is all in response to "stunters" ,"crazy fast riders" and basically bike riders that seem to consider themselves above the law or a better judge of what is "safe" than everyone else in the world..
The smoke signals went off a couple years ago about this happening and it had no effect on the riders.. it only got worse..
I fully agree with knocking them (irresponsible riders or those who can not seem to figure out what safe is) off their bikes with fines, suspensions or a gun if needed... in the case of anyone under 21 or living at home? the parents should be held accountable as well.. (they empower junior to have the bike so may as well help pay the fines)
You , I and everyone else will be better off when the irresponsible riders are taken off 100+hp bikes.. (I am tired of all the deaths myself)
However:
Enforcement is at the discretion of the officer writing the ticket and herein lies the problem.. arbitrary enforcement..
In any environment where you employ iron fisted tactics, abuse occurs.. not sometimes, but always.. Way to many power tripping LEO's out there that will just love this new policy..
Here is a case where the actions of a few have affected the many. "Hi, we realize you are a complete idiot and you should be using a pedal car but all the same, we feel it necessary to tell you to ride your bike facing forwards.."
You could get a LEO that has a problem with bikes and he writes you up for some left handed interpretation of the law.. Your odds of beating it? probably not very good.. You vs. Him and the "him" usually wins.. even if you win, it is going to cost you plenty I am sure...
What (at least in my opinion) needs done is a place for guys to play their silly games on bikes.. no it wont stop them all but it at least puts a place on the map where "responsible" talented riders could do their thing in relative safety..
The sad part is the same azzhat that rides his bike backwards going down the freeway will sue anyone or place he falls off his bike.. (not hard to do with an IQ of 33)
No easy answers but some awful hard penalties..
I have spent 40+ years on bikes without a ticket (knock knock) and without getting thrown off a street bike (dirt bikes another story).. And it is not that I do not speed, I can run with the best of them, but I do it in places that are off the beaten path and "relatively" safe..
I disagree with the law but I fully agree with the motive behind it..
I will stay out of FL myself just on the chance I get one of the LEO's with an attitude...
This is all in response to "stunters" ,"crazy fast riders" and basically bike riders that seem to consider themselves above the law or a better judge of what is "safe" than everyone else in the world..
The smoke signals went off a couple years ago about this happening and it had no effect on the riders.. it only got worse..
I fully agree with knocking them (irresponsible riders or those who can not seem to figure out what safe is) off their bikes with fines, suspensions or a gun if needed... in the case of anyone under 21 or living at home? the parents should be held accountable as well.. (they empower junior to have the bike so may as well help pay the fines)
You , I and everyone else will be better off when the irresponsible riders are taken off 100+hp bikes.. (I am tired of all the deaths myself)
However:
Enforcement is at the discretion of the officer writing the ticket and herein lies the problem.. arbitrary enforcement..
In any environment where you employ iron fisted tactics, abuse occurs.. not sometimes, but always.. Way to many power tripping LEO's out there that will just love this new policy..
Here is a case where the actions of a few have affected the many. "Hi, we realize you are a complete idiot and you should be using a pedal car but all the same, we feel it necessary to tell you to ride your bike facing forwards.."
You could get a LEO that has a problem with bikes and he writes you up for some left handed interpretation of the law.. Your odds of beating it? probably not very good.. You vs. Him and the "him" usually wins.. even if you win, it is going to cost you plenty I am sure...
What (at least in my opinion) needs done is a place for guys to play their silly games on bikes.. no it wont stop them all but it at least puts a place on the map where "responsible" talented riders could do their thing in relative safety..
The sad part is the same azzhat that rides his bike backwards going down the freeway will sue anyone or place he falls off his bike.. (not hard to do with an IQ of 33)
No easy answers but some awful hard penalties..
I have spent 40+ years on bikes without a ticket (knock knock) and without getting thrown off a street bike (dirt bikes another story).. And it is not that I do not speed, I can run with the best of them, but I do it in places that are off the beaten path and "relatively" safe..
I disagree with the law but I fully agree with the motive behind it..
I will stay out of FL myself just on the chance I get one of the LEO's with an attitude...
jeffroe334
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My friend got a ticket for riding with his shield up down here in FLorida over in Tampa. He was cooling down at a light and drove about 100 yards and flipped it down and got a ticket. You don't even have to ride with a helmet down here so he was a little miffed.
I think we will see a lot more guys trying to run from the cops.
I think we will see a lot more guys trying to run from the cops.
eye protection required? (I got a warning in Tempe AZ for this myself doing the same thing)
ToXSicK RoCKeT
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Im not sure on the point your trying to make here??? but if your saying you agree and support the new law? you have about 10-15 videos in your sig that say diffrent?
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Ok which part of the "I disagree with the law but I fully agree with the motive behind it.." did you not get?
(those videos are a dynamic page of YouTube searches and change as you tube changes, and there are literally thousands of videos on that link)
(those videos are a dynamic page of YouTube searches and change as you tube changes, and there are literally thousands of videos on that link)
Way out of hand for tag placement in my opinion. I don't see how that could be considered a moving violation since you don't have to be moving to be in violation. Someone drank the bong water!! I think they would be hard pressed to enforce the tag placement as a moving violation. The other stuff which tends to be on the squid'ey side, well, not much to do about that. The tag placement though.... :wtf:
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