Was this a Racial Slur?

I do not see this ending
without military involvement .


The police are not
equipped to handle it .


This is bad
and getting
worse for
what ?


No justice
is being
served .








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I heard, a whopping 500 of them. The powers that be need to arrest and charge those responsible for Floyd‘s death, now! All that’s happened is that they were fired. If a carpenter or cab driver had been filmed killing someone they wouldn't have simply been fired, they would’ve been arrested and charged. If charged, they’ll bail out, lawyer up, seek and get a change of venue and sometime late this year, maybe, they’ll be brought to trial. Am I optimistic?
Given the history of such things, I'm not optimistic. Too many times charges aren't filed, or juries are stacked. Either way, it's rare that officers are held to the same standards as the rest of us.
Minneapolis and surrounding law enforcement should have been aware of the likelihood that things would end up like this, it's been brewing for years.
 
Given the history of such things, I'm not optimistic. Too many times charges aren't filed, or juries are stacked. Either way, it's rare that officers are held to the same standards as the rest of us.
Minneapolis and surrounding law enforcement should have been aware of the likelihood that things would end up like this, it's been brewing for years.

I just don't get the ignorance of the police officers in question....they are all under the microscope these days and other cities have been burned over similar incidences......don't they learn, are they incapable of learning?????
 
I just don't get the ignorance of the police officers in question....they are all under the microscope these days and other cities have been burned over similar incidences......don't they learn, are they incapable of learning?????
It's not ignorance, it's arrogance. They are well aware that they are unlikely to be held accountable for their actions in any meaningful way, so they do what they want. The good officers obey the laws they uphold, they hold themselves accountable because that's what's right. The bad ones do things like this.
It's not that they don't learn, they just don't care....
 
I mean, it is Minnesota.....
When we had the riots here in VB, things got out of control when out-of-towners came in to cause destruction. Either way, minorities there need to know this mayor is a friend and they need to help him get this under control. I think I saw Prince in a smoke cloud last night and he wasn't happy (too soon?).
 
It's not ignorance, it's arrogance. They are well aware that they are unlikely to be held accountable for their actions in any meaningful way, so they do what they want. The good officers obey the laws they uphold, they hold themselves accountable because that's what's right. The bad ones do things like this.
It's not that they don't learn, they just don't care....

I would figure even the arrogant can learn that their negative actions can cause situations such as this.

Of course there are many occurrences of superiority syndrome in all professions and walks of life, I've seen this in fire fighters, paramedics, medical professionals and even people in retail or services...they act like they are in total command and control and everyone else is beneath them.
 
When we had the riots here in VB, things got out of control when out-of-towners came in to cause destruction. Either way, minorities there need to know this mayor is a friend and they need to help him get this under control. I think I saw Prince in a smoke cloud last night and he wasn't happy (too soon?).
I get what you're saying, you're right.

I was thinking last night that if Prince were still alive he would have been able to stop it.
 
Charges to police: Possible,but history shows that the firing of a police officer is all that is usually done in most countries for most crimes.
The charge will not be murder,if any charge comes at all.It will be some sort of negligence while in care and control.Sentence will doubtfully contain jail time.

The mayor seems to be a good guy who obviously made a judgement call. He decided to not add fuel to the fire by bringing in the cops who were already hated to try and quell a situation which hadn't gone totally ugly YET.Easy to play Monday Morning QB here.

The photo's did show lot's of non-blacks who are probably just as fed up as other races as to how this particular city's policing was going.Perhaps an' attempt is finally being made to stand together regardless of skin color to protest generally bad policing.That is probably closer to a dream than reality,but change has to come around at some point,perhaps these are the days for this communinity. Most likely thou...fun seekers,not organized protestors.

Looting and rioting will always go hand in hand with these types of events.An' "Avenge Rodney" sign in one hand,a looted TV in the other. Other countries provide a very harsh method for dealing with angry mobs.The governing body strikes fast and with excessive force which sends a clear and distinct message that this type of civil unrest will not be tolerated in any form.It works for those countries but is rarely demonstrated here in the "free world" with a few exceptions from time to time. You must protest in a non-violent way...but that just doesn't provide the kind of entertainment that some "protestors" are looking for. If you can write the laws as you go and put an' entire country (lots took this approach) on complete lock down for a virus that some feel to be "fake news" why is it not possible to go into an' angry crowd and have them GO HOME as well. It would not take many instances of hard lining to get a message across that any acts not condusive to the common good will be squashed emediately.An extreme for sure,but perhaps a solution to further problems down the road.Fighting an' injustice with an' injustice is never going to be the answer.One or two complete knock downs by the powers that be will send a strong message that will hopefully be remembered by an' angry mob for when the next time this happens.It will happen again,but will become less frequent as the police slowly learn that everyone has a video cam. They won't slow down their violence because they will suddenly come to their senses and become more caring and gentle...they will alter their ways because they don't want to get caught.

People need to realized,perhaps thru extreme force of some kind that they just can't do whatever they want in public enviorments. There are many tools in place to make change.Things like making a Youtube video,writing your congressperson or starting a blog but that is well... boring. No "fun" in that,no free TV or microwave either.
Rubb.
 
I would figure even the arrogant can learn that their negative actions can cause situations such as this.

Of course there are many occurrences of superiority syndrome in all professions and walks of life, I've seen this in fire fighters, paramedics, medical professionals and even people in retail or services...they act like they are in total command and control and everyone else is beneath them.
Their arrogance prevents them from seeing their part in causing situations like this. Not that any one officer or action is solely to blame, if this were an isolated example it is unlikely that events would have transpired as they are, but here can be no doubt about this officer's culpability.

I agree, police officers are a reflection of society at large, no better or worse than other Americans. The problem stems from the amount of power they have, it's literally the power of life and death, and when this power is unchecked negative consequences are inevitable. Research clearly indicates a move away from outside oversight, and more importantly a deliberate push to increase social acceptance of this self governance.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
 
As stores and a police precinct burns, the lack of any law enforcement presence is a huge mistake and one the city government is going to pay for. Looters, fire starters and window smashers should be dealt with as they occur. LEO presence would prevent more. After the King verdict Chief Davis in L.A. retired shortly after he too made the decision to prevent any law enforcement presence just about everywhere in L.A. and look what happened.
The decision Chief Gates made to withdraw police from the intersection of Florence and Normandie on that day was a direct demonstration of his disregard for communities of color. He took the position that his cops shouldn't risk their safety to protect lives and property in those areas, and residents of those communities paid the price.
 
...and here we go.....destroying a city/town will not solve anything...when will the protesters learn this.


-Jeremy, I know you don't want an answer but I don't care for either to be honest.

There is absolutely no need for any cop to be in that position over a person in custody...I've seen black cops in the same position on police shows I watch and I cringe every time I see this being done-no need for it.
Speaking of black cops, where are they? No black cops in Minneapolis?


I'm watching on MSNBC. They have live reporters there and most of the protesters appear to be white. I am going to switch to Fox here to see if the black protesters are congregated elsewhere.
A segregated race riot......?

something doesn't add up. I'm telling you guys it looks like most of the protesters are white people. Interesting. I know these are isolated shots but look at these:
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Not that it should make a difference either way but there's no black cops either.

I mean, it is Minnesota.....
There's gotta plenty black people in the Twin Cities. I haven't been there in 20 years and I can't remember noting if there seemed to be a lot of one color or another. I just expected there'd be black people in Minneapolis like there are in Milwaukee. Of course, Milwaukee is as segregated as hell. It doesn't get much more segregated than Milwaukee. I'm told people from down south are shocked when they go there.
 
There's gotta plenty black people in the Twin Cities. I haven't been there in 20 years and I can't remember noting if there seemed to be a lot of one color or another. I just expected there'd be black people in Minneapolis like there are in Milwaukee. Of course, Milwaukee is as segregated as hell. It doesn't get much more segregated than Milwaukee. I'm told people from down south are shocked when they go there.
Looks like the twin cities are between 15 and 18% black, but the state as a whole is less than 6%. A higher level of minorities is typical of urban areas throughout the US.
 
The decision Chief Gates made to withdraw police from the intersection of Florence and Normandie on that day was a direct demonstration of his disregard for communities of color. He took the position that his cops shouldn't risk their safety to protect lives and property in those areas, and residents of those communities paid the price.

Right, Gates not Davis. Davis was prior. :confused:
 
3rd degree! That means he didn’t (mean it) I guess. :mad:

The autopsy came back as “ underlying health conditions caused death”, no evidence of asphyxiation. . .
The family want a second independent autopsy, understandably.
No charges laid against the 3 other cops that stood there watching while a killing was taking place.
Wow. There’s gonna be hell to pay.
 
Maybe he shouldn't have committed a crime in the first place...and then resisting arrest in the second.
As tragic as this incident is - don't commit a crime. And if you do - don't resist arrest and you are MUCH MORE likely to get out of this alive!
 
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