Was this a Racial Slur?

[Mr Brown]

3rd degree! That means he didn’t (mean it) I guess.

Ex-officer who knelt on George Floyd's neck charged with murder

The suspect's knee was on his neck for more than 8 1/2 minutes, including 2 1/2 minutes after he had passed out, according to a criminal complaint.

news.yahoo.com

Did you really expect different?

The autopsy came back as “ underlying health conditions caused death”, no evidence of asphyxiation. . .
The family want a second independent autopsy, understandably.
No charges laid against the 3 other cops that stood there watching while a killing was taking place.
Wow. There’s gonna be hell to pay.

No there won't. There will be an out of court civil settlement to Mr. Floyd's family, non-disclosure agreement, the cop will be employed, and George Floyd will still be dead.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Maybe he shouldn't have committed a crime in the first place...and then resisting arrest in the second.
As tragic as this incident is - don't commit a crime. And if you do - don't resist arrest and you are MUCH MORE likely to get out of this alive!

Geebus man, maybe he shouldn't have been born either, or moved to Minneapolis. He didn’t resist BTW. And his ‘crime,’ while possibly a felony forgery was a non violent crime. Haven’t you seen the three/four videos? Was there (any) reason or justification for keeping him face down in the street for ten minutes?

 

[Sandow]

Geebus man, maybe he shouldn't have been born either, or moved to Minneapolis. He didn’t resist BTW. And his ‘crime,’ while possibly a felony forgery was a non violent crime. Haven’t you seen the three/four videos? Was there (any) reason or justification for keeping him face down in the street for ten minutes?

I have actually seen the video where he resisted. Of course you dont see this on the news and i cant post the link here either.
Your statement about not being born is just childish. I am suprised that someone who worked in law enforcement is not more aware of the facts. How come people who simply comply and don't commit crimes or dont resist wont get killed on a daily base?

And crime - violent or none violent - knowingly or non knowingly doesnt matter. You comply - you get a lawyer and figure it out in court. Do not resist. Pretty simple rule!

And that counts for everyone. Not depending on a skin colour!

And I did NOT justify the officers action. I did not mention the part at all. I simply stated that if you dont 1 and 2 - 3 would not have happened!

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Did you really expect different?

No there won't. There will be an out of court civil settlement to Mr. Floyd's family, non-disclosure agreement, the cop will be employed, and George Floyd will still be dead.

No, not really but I don’t think it will end with a civil settlement with no criminal prosecution.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Resisting arrest my azz. Show us that video.

 

[Mr Brown]

No, not really but I don’t think it will end with a civil settlement with no criminal prosecution.

There may well be a criminal prosecution, but don't forget this is the same area where the officer who shot Philando Castille was acquitted.

 

[RedBull]

Michigan Armed Protesters | Politics

Protesters in Michigan are showing up armed to the tee. They claim they are not trying to intimidate, but we all know that's B.S. Anyway there is some interesting history relative to armed protests and when the NRA supported gun control...

www.hayabusa.org

 

[Mr Brown]

I have actually seen the video where he resisted. Of course you dont see this on the news and i cant post the link here either.
Your statement about not being born is just childish. I am suprised that someone who worked in law enforcement is not more aware of the facts. How come people who simply comply and don't commit crimes or dont resist wont get killed on a daily base?

And crime - violent or none violent - knowingly or non knowingly doesnt matter. You comply - you get a lawyer and figure it out in court. Do not resist. Pretty simple rule!

And that counts for everyone. Not depending on a skin colour!

And I did NOT justify the officers action. I did not mention the part at all. I simply stated that if you dont 1 and 2 - 3 would not have happened!

Not sure how you can view a person lying on the ground handcuffed as non-compliant.
He was clearly not a threat. There was absolutely no need to continue kneeling on his neck.
The argument that if he hadn't committed a crime none of that would have happened is a logical fallacy. In your argument 2 and 3 would have to be the only possible outcomes following 1, and obviously they aren't. Death is not a valid legal punishment for any crime he may have committed, Minnesota abolished the death penalty over a century ago. Irrespective of that, it's not a police officer's job to decide guilt, or apply punishment. If the officer had done his damn job according to policy George Floyd's wouldn't have happened. If any one of the cops who watched it happen had done their job according to policy it wouldn't have happened either.
You can make the argument that race isn't a factor in these situations if you like, but it's not a winner. Black men are more likely to be incarcerated than white men, and black men are more likely to die at the hands of police than white men. These are facts, numbers are incapable of lying. Your opinion on this doesn't matter, nor does mine.
You may choose to believe that there is something inherent to black men that makes these things more likely, if so you are a racist. Or, like me, you may realize that there's something about society here in America that makes these things more likely, study it, try to understand how it operates, and work to change it.

 

[Mr Brown]

NVM

 

[Sandow]

Not sure how you can view a person lying on the ground handcuffed as non-compliant.
He was clearly not a threat. There was absolutely no need to continue kneeling on his neck.
The argument that if he hadn't committed a crime none of that would have happened is a logical fallacy. In your argument 2 and 3 would have to be the only possible outcomes following 1, and obviously they aren't. Death is not a valid legal punishment for any crime he may have committed, Minnesota abolished the death penalty over a century ago. Irrespective of that, it's not a police officer's job to decide guilt, or apply punishment. If the officer had done his damn job according to policy George Floyd's wouldn't have happened. If any one of the cops who watched it happen had done their job according to policy it wouldn't have happened either.
You can make the argument that race isn't a factor in these situations if you like, but it's not a winner. Black men are more likely to be incarcerated than white men, and black men are more likely to die at the hands of police than white men. These are facts, numbers are incapable of lying. Your opinion on this doesn't matter, nor does mine.
You may choose to believe that there is something inherent to black men that makes these things more likely, if so you are a racist. Or, like me, you may realize that there's something about society here in America that makes these things more likely, study it, try to understand how it operates, and work to change it.

Of course if you watched the video where he is laying ALREADY on the ground - thats not resisting arrest. I was not talking about that at all.
That part is clearly manslaughter or even murder.

The police is pulling him out of a vehicle and he is resisting. This wasnt shown on any major news channel! That's what i was talking about.

And i clearly said already that was the cop was doing ,was wrong. Not sure how you can make up all those allegations right now.
Maybe I am seeing this whole incident from a different perspective than you do. Maybe I never had an issue with my skin colour and therefore I am not as emotional about it. You and me have talked about that before if you remember.
If you want to spend literally hundreds of hours of footage of arrests on channels where UNcensored arrests will be shown from beginning to end - let me know and i will send you links to those channels.I have done that for reasons you know and THEN you can tell me if there is not a HUGE difference between arrests of white or black people. It is a well known fact that the biased news only show us what they think we should see.
You will be stunned what the actual recordings will show you.

 

[Mr Brown]

Has nothing to do with emotion, I'm stating fact. That you don't agree is emotional. I don't need to see anecdotal video evidence of arrests, I know that many arrests of black folk go smoothly, and I'm sure that many arrests of white folks don't. That still doesn't change the facts I stated earlier.

 

[Sandow]

Has nothing to do with emotion, I'm stating fact. That you don't agree is emotional. I don't need to see anecdotal video evidence of arrests, I know that many arrests of black folk go smoothly, and I'm sure that many arrests of white folks don't. That still doesn't change the facts I stated earlier.

I am not emotional at all. Why should I be? There is evidence of it. Both parties have screwed up. Unfortunately it cost someones life. End of story.
And if you want to call me a racist - well go ahead. Thats the most inaccurate thing I have ever been called.

 

[Bumblebee]

I am not emotional at all. Why should I be? There is evidence of it. Both parties have screwed up. Unfortunately it cost someones life. End of story.

Actually the continuance of the story as a city is being ripped apart and burned....with protests flaring up all across the US.

I hope the police soon learn they have to wake the heck up and start following policy and operating as if every little thing they do is being monitored and recorded (and it is).

 

[fallenarch]

Maybe he shouldn't have committed a crime in the first place...and then resisting arrest in the second.
As tragic as this incident is - don't commit a crime. And if you do - don't resist arrest and you are MUCH MORE likely to get out of this alive!

He didn't commit a crime. Remember innocent until proven guilty? Read your pocket copy of the constitution!

 

[Mythos]

3rd degree! That means he didn’t (mean it) I guess.

Ex-officer who knelt on George Floyd's neck charged with murder

The suspect's knee was on his neck for more than 8 1/2 minutes, including 2 1/2 minutes after he had passed out, according to a criminal complaint.

news.yahoo.com

I watched the whole cellphone video. It seemed as though they mocked him telling him to get in the car while they held him down and then the guy continued to kneel on his neck at least a couple minutes after Floyd was unconscious. You wanna tell me that cop didn't know he was killing him? That's a pile of BS! A person would have to be complete fool to think a person was probably going to live after they lost consciousness while you knelt on their neck for another two minutes. The article says almost 3 minutes. The cop knew what he was doing and he even added an extra minute for good measure.

This whole thing, the murder, The window smashing, the riot, the police precinct fire, the CNN news team arrest---it's all extremely suspicious. I often brush off conspiracy theories as nonsense but all of the events that have unfolded seem like somebody planned it all. Maybe I am going crazy.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

I’ve seen the initial video all over the internet. It shows him coming out of his vehicle and stiffening up (maybe) and however he was cuffed up a single cop walked him over the the sidewalk and helped him sit down, a (single officer)! He certainly wasn’t a threat then or more than one cop would’ve been involved. No cop worth his salt would consider a suspect stiffening up when cuffed to be resisting, neither would a prosecutor. None of the other 2-3 videos show him resisting. And again, no amount of resisting merits him being held down in the street for 7-10 minutes. And for the record I don’t think you’re an intentional racist but repeating such a ridiculous statement like ‘if he only wouldn’t have been a criminal‘ just doesn’t wash.

 

[Mr Brown]

I am not emotional at all. Why should I be? There is evidence of it. Both parties have screwed up. Unfortunately it cost someones life. End of story.
And if you want to call me a racist - well go ahead. Thats the most inaccurate thing I have ever been called.

An opinion can be described as an emotional response to a fact.
The definition of racism is the belief that people possess different traits and abilities based on skin color. So, if a person thinks that black men are more likely to die at the hands of police because of something inherent to being black, they're a racist. If you take that to mean I was suggesting you are one, well, so be it. If the shoe fits, as the saying goes....
The sentiment that "both parties screwed up" draws a false equivalence between the two. The situation wasn't equal, the power dynamic wasn't equal, the outcome wasn't equal. If someone killed a loved one of yours who committed fraud, I suspect your response would be a little different.

 

[fallenarch]

Here is some context. All of this has been brewing for awhile. Also sort of explains why the mayor pretty much deserted the police in the middle of the night. Minneapolis Police, Long Accused of Racism, Face Wrath of Wounded City

 

[Red05]

I hope the police soon learn they have to wake the heck up and start following policy and operating as if every little thing they do is being monitored and recorded (and it is).

Sad but true that the chance of being watched is the only thing that compels some people to do the right thing. I have no use for those people.
To commit murder while wearing a badge makes it even even worse.
The other officers should also be charged as conspirators.

 

[RedBull]