Will you get the covid vaccine?

China....yeah....today i hear the news in my car radio, that two big companys near by me, will close thier doors for ever. 500 pepole will lose thier jobs, and that one month before christmas, makes me sad! And why? They produce magnesium parts for the car industry, but since month they waiting for raw materials from china. But they dont deliver! China says "oh....we want do rescue the nature, so we dont dismantle the magnesium raw materials anymore.....or at least not for other countries. And now?

Every second object i buy, there is a "made in china" batch. Sad but true.....you cant ignore the fact, that the hole world depends on china....wether you like it or not.....
 
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Rubberrabbit said:
China....yeah....today i hear the news in my car radio, that two big companys near by me, will close thier doors for ever. 500 pepole will lose thier jobs, and that one month before christmas, makes me sad! And why? They produce magnesium parts for the car industry, but since month they waiting for raw materials from china. But they dont deliver! China says "oh....we want do rescue the nature, so we dont dismantle the magnesium raw materials anymore.....or at least not for other countries. And now?

Every second object i buy, there is a "made in china" batch. Sad but true.....you cant ignore the fact, that the hole world depends on china....wether you like it or not.....
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And only 30 years ago China was a 3rd world country…. All the manufacturing was awarded to China by the ruling masters, the banksters financed it all and we pay for it all with taxes and job losses.
It’s a crooked system we are living under.
 
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Got my Moderna booster yesterday. Say Willie, you hear about Robert Cray declining to open for Clapton due to his comparing Covid precautions to slavery?
 
Bumblebee said:
Hell, I could find a thousand such videos both for and against both our opinions....

Here is the definition of vaccine, draw your own conclusions however they mention a vaccine given for the flu and isn't Covid a sort of super flu leaning toward pneumonia?

[a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.]
"every year the flu vaccine is modified to deal with new strains of the virus"
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Remember when Polio was a thing? Then guess what.... a VACCINE came out and now Polio has been eradicated in the United States. There are NO “break through” cases no reports of Americans getting mild Polio. It is gone! Used to be that way with Measles until the tinfoil antivaxxers stopped getting their Kids immunized and now you got kids coming home with it. Same as refugees being brought over here and not immunized. The chicken pox vaccine is now available. Your kid gets it and guess what he no longer misses weeks of school and is covered in sores. THESE are Vaccines! They prevent infection!!! I have 5 family members who drunk the Dr. Falsey koolaide and got the jab and they STILL got Covid!! These are family members that I can personally attest. 2 of them had to go to the emergency room with pneumonia!!! This isn’t some non descriptive report of people I don’t know. How is there 5 “breakthrough” cases just within the small circle of people I know? This isn’t a Vaccine.... You can still get sick you can still get hospitalized and you can still Die!
 
1busa said:
Remember when Polio was a thing? Then guess what.... a VACCINE came out and now Polio has been eradicated in the United States. There are NO “break through” cases no reports of Americans getting mild Polio. It is gone! Used to be that way with Measles until the tinfoil antivaxxers stopped getting their Kids immunized and now you got kids coming home with it. Same as refugees being brought over here and not immunized. The chicken pox vaccine is now available. Your kid gets it and guess what he no longer misses weeks of school and is covered in sores. THESE are Vaccines! They prevent infection!!! I have 5 family members who drunk the Dr. Falsey koolaide and got the jab and they STILL got Covid!! These are family members that I can personally attest. 2 of them had to go to the emergency room with pneumonia!!! This isn’t some non descriptive report of people I don’t know. How is there 5 “breakthrough” cases just within the small circle of people I know? This isn’t a Vaccine.... You can still get sick you can still get hospitalized and you can still Die!
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You arrived late to the party, I've already quoted the definition of a vaccine and I'm sorry to say this to you but this is a vaccine....regardless of your opinion. Unless of course you have a virologist diploma on your wall and can contradict what the definition of a vaccine is.
 
Bumblebee said:
You arrived late to the party, I've already quoted the definition of a vaccine and I'm sorry to say this to you but this is a vaccine....regardless of your opinion. Unless of course you have a virologist diploma on your wall and can contradict what the definition of a vaccine is.
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When you change the definition to fit what you want, the cup of coffee you drank this morning could be defined as a "vaccine".

Prior to 2015, "vaccination" was defined as the "injection of a killed or weakened infectious organism in order to 'prevent' the diseases."

Between 2015 and 2021, the term was re-defined as "the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce 'immunity' to a specific disease."

By September 2021, the definition read "the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce 'protection' from a specific disease."

Here we are 20+ months into this, and the only people I know who are getting really sick have gotten the shot. The only people having respiratory issues in this area are ones who got poked.
 
FlatlandBusa said:
When you change the definition to fit what you want, the cup of coffee you drank this morning could be defined as a "vaccine".

Prior to 2015, "vaccination" was defined as the "injection of a killed or weakened infectious organism in order to 'prevent' the diseases."

Between 2015 and 2021, the term was re-defined as "the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce 'immunity' to a specific disease."

By September 2021, the definition read "the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce 'protection' from a specific disease."

Here we are 20+ months into this, and the only people I know who are getting really sick have gotten the shot. The only people having respiratory issues in this area are ones who got poked.
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BS. I don't believe you.
 
1busa said:
Remember when Polio was a thing? Then guess what.... a VACCINE came out and now Polio has been eradicated in the United States. There are NO “break through” cases no reports of Americans getting mild Polio. It is gone! Used to be that way with Measles until the tinfoil antivaxxers stopped getting their Kids immunized and now you got kids coming home with it. Same as refugees being brought over here and not immunized. The chicken pox vaccine is now available. Your kid gets it and guess what he no longer misses weeks of school and is covered in sores. THESE are Vaccines! They prevent infection!!! I have 5 family members who drunk the Dr. Falsey koolaide and got the jab and they STILL got Covid!! These are family members that I can personally attest. 2 of them had to go to the emergency room with pneumonia!!! This isn’t some non descriptive report of people I don’t know. How is there 5 “breakthrough” cases just within the small circle of people I know? This isn’t a Vaccine.... You can still get sick you can still get hospitalized and you can still Die!
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Ever get a flu vaccine? You can still get sick, many do. But the numbers are indisputable that people with the shot have better outcomes. Just because it doesn't match your anecdotal experiences does not mean the numbers are false.

BTW: the shot does not stop you from getting COVID it stops it from sitting in your lungs and drowning you. It was a regrettable oversimplification that the vaccine stops you from getting the virus.
 
fallenarch said:
Ever get a flu vaccine? You can still get sick, many do. But the numbers are indisputable that people with the shot have better outcomes. Just because it doesn't match your anecdotal experiences does not mean the numbers are false.

BTW: the shot does not stop you from getting COVID it stops it from sitting in your lungs and drowning you. It was a regrettable oversimplification that the vaccine stops you from getting the virus.
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Is that what they said in the beginning? Or is that the BS they sell now? A company they has no liability for the side effects why do you trust.... That’s capitalism at its worst I thought that was your enemy? Or is it ok because CNN told you so......
 
Mathewrussell52 said:
Is that what they said in the beginning? Or is that the BS they sell now? A company they has no liability for the side effects why do you trust.... That’s capitalism at its worst I thought that was your enemy? Or is it ok because CNN told you so......
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You're making a lot of assumptions about me. I assure you that you don't know what you're talking about. The flu shot is very effective against the strains they predict will be a problem. If they guess wrong it's not as effective. That's why the shot has good years and not-so-good years.
 
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